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Old 06-07-2008, 06:48 PM   #31
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Please explain why I should trust someone who is not able to express his stance on issues. I really want to know what he is about, and his words seem to be empty and lacking substance.
Our whole government operates this way. It's called spinning and they all do it.
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Our whole government operates this way. It's called spinning and they all do it.
Yea, I know you know I know
But I want an answer from an Obama supporter.
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Old 06-07-2008, 06:58 PM   #33
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Yea, I know you know I know
But I want an answer from an Obama supporter.
And the political jigsaw puzzle continues.
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And the political jigsaw puzzle continues.
Normally I'd say there's a few screws loose.
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:24 PM   #35
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Can you tell me why I should not be afraid of Obama's stance on the issues he has been involved in ??

Please explain why I should trust someone who is not able to express his stance on issues. I really want to know what he is about, and his words seem to be empty and lacking substance.

What little I know of, seems to be a very bad direction for this country. So can you calm my nerves and allow me to sleep better if he wins this election ??
Do you want to actually pick a specific issue or two? Basically what you have just done is exactly what you are accusing Obama of. You made a very vague statement that pertained to no specific policy just to some talking points that are commonly used on Fox news to criticize him. Which words seem lacking in substance? His national security platform? His healthcare platform? His commitment to balancing the budget and reducing the federal deficit that has spiraled out of control under GOP economic policies?

Now you and I have discussed on other threads our views about national security but I would be happy to reiterate why I believe Obama will keep the nation safer than McCain. As I have said this is the most important issue for me and is what I am primarily basing my decision to vote on.

So I would be happy to field answers on specific questions if you have them or to debate why I prefer Obama to McCain on various issues. I do not stand behind Obama on everyone of his policy programs, but I agree with his more than with McCain's so I will vote for him. As to broad sweeping general statements like someone having or not having substance, I don't really feel that would be productive as it would just be a mirroring of the circle jerk seen on the national media every night. Sound bytes being thrown around by O'Reilly, Olberman, Hannity and Chirs Matthews. If that is your emotional reaction to Obama, fine. I am not going to respond with my emotional reaction to either candidate as I think making a decision based on sound intellectual reasoning processes will probably lead to choosing a better candidate.

The field is yours sir. I await your questions.
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Do you want to actually pick a specific issue or two? Basically what you have just done is exactly what you are accusing Obama of. You made a very vague statement that pertained to no specific policy just to some talking points that are commonly used on Fox news to criticize him. Which words seem lacking in substance? His national security platform? His healthcare platform? His commitment to balancing the budget and reducing the federal deficit that has spiraled out of control under GOP economic policies?

Now you and I have discussed on other threads our views about national security but I would be happy to reiterate why I believe Obama will keep the nation safer than McCain. As I have said this is the most important issue for me and is what I am primarily basing my decision to vote on.

So I would be happy to field answers on specific questions if you have them or to debate why I prefer Obama to McCain on various issues. I do not stand behind Obama on everyone of his policy programs, but I agree with his more than with McCain's so I will vote for him. As to broad sweeping general statements like someone having or not having substance, I don't really feel that would be productive as it would just be a mirroring of the circle jerk seen on the national media every night. Sound bytes being thrown around by O'Reilly, Olberman, Hannity and Chirs Matthews. If that is your emotional reaction to Obama, fine. I am not going to respond with my emotional reaction to either candidate as I think making a decision based on sound intellectual reasoning processes will probably lead to choosing a better candidate.

The field is yours sir. I await your questions.
How does Obama plan to pay for the Healthcare program he proposes without doing serious economic damage to the country as a whole and to the bulk of the individuals in it?

Your condescending attitude is getting really old so please answer this one with specifics and links, other than directing anyone who asks to Obama's website. You asked for it, you got it. I eagerly await what I have not yet seen from either you or Obama. That is a coherent, detailed and well thought out reply.
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Do you want to actually pick a specific issue or two?...
What light can you shed regarding Obama's position and policies on the following specific points:
1. SCOTUS potential picks (with regard to Originalist vs Activist justices)
2. Illegal immigration
3. Response to nuclear Iran
4. Energy policy
5. Climate change policy
6. Tax policy
7. Bill of Rights support
8. Sovereignty of US Law (vs. UN, International imposition)

Thanks.
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Normally I'd say there's a few screws loose.
But I'll settle for missing pieces
It's much worst than that, really. Our governments a minefield just waiting for our children to find it. Were just kidding ourself's thinking one side of our government can save them.
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What light can you shed regarding Obama's position and policies on the following specific points:
1. SCOTUS potential picks (with regard to Originalist vs Activist justices)
2. Illegal immigration
3. Response to nuclear Iran
4. Energy policy
5. Climate change policy
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7. Bill of Rights support
8. Sovereignty of US Law (vs. UN, International imposition)

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Obama has his own positions on these issues? he doesn't. he will go whichever way his party wants him to go. He's already had 3 different positions on Iran.
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It's much worst than that, really. Our governments a minefield just waiting for our children to find it. Were just kidding ourself's thinking one side of our government can save them.
US versus THEM
You know what I mean.
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