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Old 05-17-2008, 11:13 PM   #11
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If we killed them all wouldn't the children be dead as well?
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mccain posted a timeline?

omg its just a date that the terrorists can win!


or since he's a Republican candidate he is for sure that it'll be "victory."



by the way, what is the definition of victory? "stable, democratic" iraq? define "stable"....

also, considering everybody here hates the dems, i'd be quick to question why they're so eager to make sure it becomes democratic.



oh well yet another batch of questions from a terrorist sympathizer, needing not to be answered.
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Old 05-18-2008, 03:28 AM   #13
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I'm interested in seeing McCain's timeline for balancing the budget whilst spending a trillion a year to fund the war. Perhaps Juan would care to share his timeline for dispatching 20 million illegals back to Mexico.
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Old 05-18-2008, 05:23 AM   #14
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I'm interested in seeing McCain's timeline for balancing the budget whilst spending a trillion a year to fund the war. Perhaps Juan would care to share his timeline for dispatching 20 million illegals back to Mexico.
First of all it's not a trillion a yr
During the reagan yrs the budget was like 800 billion yr
now it is over 3 trillion a yr. so I guess it is just your priority of spending on what you think we should spend our money on.
Things like Ethanol or defense of this country
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First of all it's not a trillion a yr
During the reagan yrs the budget was like 800 billion yr
now it is over 3 trillion a yr. so I guess it is just your priority of spending on what you think we should spend our money on.
Things like Ethanol or defense of this country
Right! Defense of this country! How about spending on our homeland security. I'm all for more Border Patrol to protect our borders and ports, not Iraq's.

How about spending to rebuild our infrastructure, bridges, higways, dams and levees.

The VA could use a real shot in the arm as well. Let's spend billions more on our current Veterans who aren't being properly cared for without creating future war Vets who will enter an already underfunded and mismanaged system.

I wouldn't be opposed to my tax dollars going into developing alternate forms of energy such as wind, wave, solar, and fuel cell technologies. An "Apollo Project" as it were. Then again, we could just displace some caribou and pump out the oil and natural gas we already have in Alaska and the Gulf and throw a few refineries in for good measure.

I'm for offering incentives to keep American companies in America so they can employ American workers.

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War costs could total $1.6 trillion by 2009, panel estimates - CNN.com

Iraq war spending vs. spending on renewable energy
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First of all it's not a trillion a yr
During the reagan yrs the budget was like 800 billion yr
now it is over 3 trillion a yr. so I guess it is just your priority of spending on what you think we should spend our money on.
Things like Ethanol or defense of this country
Damn you must be getting a big kickback for all the BS over a few billion dollars

All you have shown is that this country spends like there is no tomorrow. But thats OK, you go ahead and state that the only difference is what the money is spent on.

A good diversionary tactic!!
To bad McAmnesty has set a timeline ....
In the words of the White House ... He has emboldened the terrorists!!

Do ya feel better knowing that your few billion is nothing more than a number on a credit statement ??
I do


Bush hands card to McAmnesty, and everything remains the same
Oh, and who really gives a rat's a$$ about how things were under Reagan or any other historical Presidency. It's history ...
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I like how you have all been talked into dismissing the lost of 3000 Americans on 911. You offer no plan at all to deal with it. Yes to border patrol but it is a small piece of the problem.

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The total economic impact of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is estimated at $1.6 trillion by 2009, a congressional committee said in a report released Tuesday.
Well this is by 2009 and of both wars
That is nearly double the $804 billion in direct war costs the White House requested so far from Congress, the Democratic-led Joint Economic Committee said.
The committee estimated $1.3 trillion in war costs by the end of 2008 for Iraq, and the remainder for Afghanistan.
The total war costs could grow to $3.5 trillion by 2017, the committee estimated.
assuming the war continues at the current rate which will not be the case
JUST FOR FYI
The US is spending about $10 billion a month on Iraq and Afghanistan. By the end of this year, the total funds appropriated will be nearly $600 billion – approaching the amount spent on the Vietnam or Korean wars, when adjusted for inflation.

However, the actual impact of the war on the economy is different than in the past, largely because the US economy is so much bigger now. During World War II, some analysts calculate that the US spent as much as 30 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP) on the war effort. The Korean War, at its spending peak in 1953, represented 14 percent of GDP; Vietnam was about 9 percent. The current war, however, is less than 1 percent of America's annual $13 trillion GDP.


It all comes down to how you tell the story and how YOU prefer to hear it.

If the Dems get into office all this will fade into the background but they will continue the same policy. It is just anti war talk push forward by the dems and the partners the Media to discredit Bush and the Reps to gain their own personal power
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A good diversionary tactic!!
To bad McAmnesty has set a timeline ....
In the words of the White House ... He has emboldened the terrorists!!

Do ya feel better knowing that your few billion is nothing more than a number on a credit statement ??
I do
McAmnesty timeline is truth as it is based on a winning situation to withdrawal not on abandonment by the far left.

and McAmensty is the same damn policy as the Left. Bring in Illegals and making them citizens with voting rights.
We have to come together on this and stop who ever is in office.
This is about 25 million illegals that we will have to pay for and 25 Mill that will NOW compete with jobs Americans will do which will be a falling Pay Scale for all of us
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I like how you have all been talked into dismissing the lost of 3000 Americans on 911. You offer no plan at all to deal with it.
I find pretty much any plan better than your profit from the death of others as outlined here ... iraq coming along

As for dismissing the loss of 3000 Americans on 911, I'm just glad I am not part of the all to which you refer.

ETA: But I guess you are right. "It all comes down to how you tell the story and how YOU prefer to hear it."
If you knew the outcome of 911, I suppose you'd have made a profit that day, also!
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I like how you have all been talked into dismissing the lost of 3000 Americans on 911. You offer no plan at all to deal with it. Yes to border patrol but it is a small piece of the problem.

JUST FOR FYI
The US is spending about $10 billion a month on Iraq and Afghanistan. By the end of this year, the total funds appropriated will be nearly $600 billion – approaching the amount spent on the Vietnam or Korean wars, when adjusted for inflation.

However, the actual impact of the war on the economy is different than in the past, largely because the US economy is so much bigger now. During World War II, some analysts calculate that the US spent as much as 30 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP) on the war effort. The Korean War, at its spending peak in 1953, represented 14 percent of GDP; Vietnam was about 9 percent. The current war, however, is less than 1 percent of America's annual $13 trillion GDP.


It all comes down to how you tell the story and how YOU prefer to hear it.

If the Dems get into office all this will fade into the background but they will continue the same policy. It is just anti war talk push forward by the dems and the partners the Media to discredit Bush and the Reps to gain their own personal power
This is a diagram showing how much discretionary spending is spent on defense.



DEFENSE SPENDING, MILITARY BUDGET
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