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Old 05-15-2008, 07:58 PM   #11
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Bush is a total jerk!
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Old 05-15-2008, 08:03 PM   #13
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I love how it is always one sided with this administration.

If it is so bad to talk to these people ... Perhaps Bush should stop the political BS that he spews to bolster McAmnesty and just flat out FIRE CONDI. She has after all been in his ear stating stuff about talking to people.

Then again, perhaps he should FIRE PETRAUS ... He's been talking to people we once called terrorists. Heck he's working with some of them to develop solutions and cooperation. How about all the WH authorized meetings that have taken place in the past few years.
I would think that if he was serious about this and not making fluffed up look at the bad democrat statements .... He could find quite a few people who have entered into discussions with what the WH calls terrorists.

Sorry, I forgot ... The decider said this. They're only terrorists when it is convenient.

BAD Democrat my a$$
BAD leadership, and another ... LOL, at least he didn't fumble the words

Yes, and maybe Bush should fire his own Secretary of Defense, who said recently that we should talk to Iran. What a f*cking hypocrite!
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I personally find it hilarious that Joe Biden of all people decides to criticize somebody for making "ridiculous statements".
I personally think Joe Biden, despite his personality flaws, is a foreign policy expert. He makes our fearless leader look like a petulent child.
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I personally think Joe Biden, despite his personality flaws, is a foreign policy expert. He makes our fearless leader look like a petulent child.
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Chris Matthews tears conservative radio person Kevin James a new one.

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Aren't we all... for now. Later on, by popular vote, maybe not.
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I personally think Joe Biden, despite his personality flaws, is a foreign policy expert. He makes our fearless leader look like a petulent child.
Yeah, he couldn't be more correct about those Indians at 7-11 and Dunkin Donuts. What will he say next? He can't ever call Dell tech support without speaking to an Indian named "Butch"? He's an idiot just like 95% of all the other congressmen and women that have been elected.

But as to the original post, I find it pretty amusing how Obama immediately goes on the defensive about what Bush said, even though Obama did say he would speak to ahmadinejad. For that matter, whoever wants to go and talk to him (appease) is an idiot. Neville Chamberlain tried it with Hitler and it didn't work, Clinton tried it with Kim Jong Il and it didn't work. Let's go and talk to Chavez while we are at it.
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Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE), chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee absolutely tore into President George W. Bush for his comments from Israel, which appeared to take a swipe at Obama.

Bush said this morning, “Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along. We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: 'Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.' We have an obligation to call this what it is -- the false comfort of appeasement."

An exasperated Biden skewered Bush over that in a conference call with reporters, calling the comments “pure politics,” “blatant,” “beneath the presidency,” “truly disgraceful,” “outrageous,” “disturbing,” “ridiculous hypocrisy” and “long-distance Swiftboating.” He even said Bush “oughta get a life.”

“For this president to go on the attack against Barack Obama,” Biden said. “It cannot go unanswered.” [Possible veep audition?]

Coupling Bush’s comments with McCain’s assertion that it’s clear who Hamas wants to be president, Biden said he sees “an ugly pattern emerging.”

He said the president should “get in touch with his administration.”

“I assume he’s going to fire his Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense,” Biden said. “They want engagement of Iran.”

He went on. “This is the kind of political rhetoric which continues to masquerade as policy,” Biden said. “All they have is masquerades.”

And… “This is why we’re in the situation we’re in,” he said, as he criticized Bush for “demonizing” Democrats.

Bush “should try to figure out how to dig us out of the God awful hole this president has gotten us into.” He added that when he travels abroad, “I don’t criticize the president” --no matter how much they might disagree on various facets of foreign policy. In fact, he said he has defended the president when abroad.

Biden also sharply criticized Bush’s -- and John McCain’s, for that matter -- Mideast policy, or in McCain’s case lack thereof, Biden said. He called Bush’s policy an “abject failure,” “truly delusional” and “backwards.”

“The president’s saber rattling has been the most self-defeating policy imaginable … spurs instability in the Middle East … increase in price of oil … plays into the hands of those Iranian leaders he rails against.

“Since when, since when has talking removed no from the American vocabulary.

More: “This is the same president, who talks about appeasement, the same one who asks me to get on a plane and talk to Qaddafi,” Biden said. “The same president who made a deal with Qaddafi. He writes letters, ‘Dear Mr. Chairman’ to Kim Jong Il.

“He oughta get a life here … Under George W. Bush’s watch, Iran, not freedom has been on the march … They’re a lot closer to the bomb… He calls Maliki our guy … Whose policy produced that? Whose watch was that? … Iran’s proxy Hezbollah is on the ascendancy. Don’t take my word for it, look at NIE … Afghanistan, Pakistan, Al Qaeda is stronger now.

“We should take zero backseat to this pres, talking about appeasement. … Under him, Israel is less safe.”

Biden also admitted to initially calling Bush’s comments “bull----.”

“I reacted viscerally,” he said. “But the essence of what I said was accurate. I should have said malarkey.”

Biden rips Bush - First Read - msnbc.com
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And Joe Lieberman might as well JOIN the Knesset!! That's who he's working for anyway.
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