The Democrats Sidle Up to the Second Amendment

[wombat13]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I'm not saying I agree with the provisions of the Global Poverty Act, but what should the U.S. or anybody do about people eating mud cookies to stave off hunger?



Kimberly Green: Global Poverty at its Worst: Mud Cookies in Haiti - Living on The Huffington Post

The developed world could eliminate the ridiculous ethanol mandates that are driving up agricultural prices for starters. Then they could eliminate all agricultural subsidies which would then allow third world farmers to effectively compete.

[KEVWYO]

Originally Posted by newKid

this is purely based on the deep bowels of my brain . . .

but dont we as a nation already send millions, if not billions more for global aid than anyone else? i mean, didnt Bush just ask for $770,000,000 for food aid? i think we do a lot already. i think the problem is, that the leaders are so corrupt in third world countries where the crisis is the worst , the aid ends up going to officials or warlords and not to starving people. im not saying we need to stop sending money to starving peoples, but we need to make sure it goes directly to help the people who need it. If we cant find a way to do that (and im not opposed to doing it through force) then we should keep the money at home, and do something, like pay back China with it. . .

Agreed. Giving the UN the money to do this aid is like giving a drunk person keys to the car so they can get to the next bar. Something bad is going to happen along the way.

I hope that Congress won't have to think to hard before realizing this proposed legislation is a BAD, BAD, BAD idea.

[trik396]

Congress has been know to pass bad legislation? Come on...

A Democratic congress with Obama at the helm and who knows what kind of socialistic crap will come down the pike.

[KEVWYO]

Originally Posted by trik396

A Democratic congress with Obama at the helm and who knows what kind of socialistic crap will come down the pike.

Then again ... who knows, maybe some good stuff will come down the pike. Unlike the current regime who can only see fit to spend money outside it's borders perhaps the new administration will actually spend money to help it's own citizens. What a novel idea! Take the taxes of it's citizens and help them. What an interesting concept.

[robin48]

Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Agreed. Giving the UN the money to do this aid is like giving a drunk person keys to the car so they can get to the next bar. Something bad is going to happen along the way.

I hope that Congress won't have to think to hard before realizing this proposed legislation is a BAD, BAD, BAD idea.

Here I am agreeing with Kev again. Giving any money to the UN for any reason is idiocy.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Then again ... who knows, maybe some good stuff will come down the pike. Unlike the current regime who can only see fit to spend money outside it's borders perhaps the new administration will actually spend money to help it's own citizens. What a novel idea! Take the taxes of it's citizens and help them. What an interesting concept.

Did you miss Frenchy's post, if so, I put it below. Looks like Obama wants to spend it out side the USA.....

Originally Posted by Frenchy

The United States Senate may vote any day on the stealth imposition of what could amount to an $845 BILLION United Nations style global tax on American citizens?

It's called the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), and it is being sponsored by none other than Senator Barack Obama.

According to some conservative sources, this disastrous legislation could eventually force U.S. taxpayers to fork over as much as 0.7 percent of the nation's Gross Domestic Product -- or $845,000,000,000.00 -- on welfare to third-world countries.
Here's what Phyllis Schlafly, conservative activist and founder of Eagle Forum, recently wrote:
"Obama's costly, dangerous and altogether bad bill (S. 2433), which could come up in the Senate any day, is called the Global Poverty Act. It would commit U.S. taxpayers to spend 0.7 percent of our Gross Domestic Product on foreign handouts..." [Emphasis Mine]

Time is of the essence because Senator Joe Biden, the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee just issued a report on the Global Poverty Act and it was placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar on Thursday the 24th.

That means that time is of the essence as this potentially massive surrender of your hard-earned tax dollars to the third world may be close to a vote.

That's why we must act today... BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

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Let them know in no uncertain terms that you are watching and you will not tolerate massive United Nations style giveaways that are passed in the dark of night -- or in broad daylight for that matter. Tell them that putting us on the road to give billions to petty tyrants and dictators is NOT a solution to poverty.


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Frenchy, that is enough to make one really question Obama....

The UN has yet to delieve aid to any one effectivly. Seems we, the USA have to do it ourselfs if we want it done.

Why would the USA give more the the UN who is always against us. If we must help other countries, lets do it with out the UN...

[Frenchy]

No arguement there, Dave.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by newKid

this is purely based on the deep bowels of my brain . . .

but dont we as a nation already send millions, if not billions more for global aid than anyone else? i mean, didnt Bush just ask for $770,000,000 for food aid? i think we do a lot already. i think the problem is, that the leaders are so corrupt in third world countries where the crisis is the worst , the aid ends up going to officials or warlords and not to starving people. im not saying we need to stop sending money to starving peoples, but we need to make sure it goes directly to help the people who need it. If we cant find a way to do that (and im not opposed to doing it through force) then we should keep the money at home, and do something, like pay back China with it. . .

I agree that the foreign aid money often doesn't get to the people.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by wombat13

The developed world could eliminate the ridiculous ethanol mandates that are driving up agricultural prices for starters. Then they could eliminate all agricultural subsidies which would then allow third world farmers to effectively compete.

Well, people were starving and eating mud cookies (or something like it) before the ethanol subsidies.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by FLSTFI Dave

Did you miss Frenchy's post, if so, I put it below. Looks like Obama wants to spend it out side the USA.....




Frenchy, that is enough to make one really question Obama....

The UN has yet to delieve aid to any one effectivly. Seems we, the USA have to do it ourselfs if we want it done.

Why would the USA give more the the UN who is always against us. If we must help other countries, lets do it with out the UN...

Do you see the value in an international organization that is dedicated to doing humanitarian work, serves as a forum to air disputes between countries or peoples, and works toward creating peaceful resolution of conflicts?