The Democrats Sidle Up to the Second Amendment

[yeahYeah]

Originally Posted by trik396

Why don't they ask Obama about the legislation he co-wrote in Illinois called the "anti-poverty act" which will tax Americans nearly a TRILLION dollars in the next decade and give the money to the UN to decide where they should distribute it around the world... AND the small print reads that any nation signing on to this proposal will ban it's citizens from use of small arms... What one has to do with the other is beyond me.

there hasnt been much talk on this - its been buried...the media is carrying his water. i wish Rush and others would bring this up.

[Ishpeck]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

No "Hunters and Sportsmen" in NY I guess.

Don't y'know that you have to be a "hunter" or "sportsman" in order for your life to be worth saving? According to the government, nobody in New York deserves to live.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by Ishpeck

Don't y'know that you have to be a "hunter" or "sportsman" in order for your life to be worth saving? According to the government, nobody in New York deserves to live.

That's about the extent of the Obama rap. God help us if he makes it in to the Big Office.

I'll probably join AZXD and get in line for my Food Vouchers, Govt. Cheese, Housing assistance and Welfare slush fund. Need the Flat screen and Cable in my Section 8 pad after all. Isn't that a God given right?

[yeahYeah]

it really makes no sense to try and support yourself and your family, when what you work for goes right to the govt with plans to support you...

perhaps i will also quit my job and close my business since the govt. knows my needs better.

[Sirius1963]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

You can see them mess their drawers everytime someone brings this issue up.

So the 2nd. Amendment takes on a different standard based on region of the country?

First off, does it work in NY ?

And something I've wondered, if the 2A reads "...to keep and bear arms.."

Websters says :
Main Entry: 3arm Function: noun Usage: often attributive Etymology: Middle English armes (plural) weapons, from Anglo-French, from Latin arma Date: 13th century 1 a: a means (as a weapon) of offense or defense; especially : firearm

What does that have to do with hunting ? I'm surprised that was never brought up in Heller vs DC.

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by trik396

Why don't they ask Obama about the legislation he co-wrote in Illinois called the "anti-poverty act" which will tax Americans nearly a TRILLION dollars in the next decade and give the money to the UN to decide where they should distribute it around the world... AND the small print reads that any nation signing on to this proposal will ban it's citizens from use of small arms... What one has to do with the other is beyond me.

The United States Senate may vote any day on the stealth imposition of what could amount to an $845 BILLION United Nations style global tax on American citizens?

It's called the Global Poverty Act (S.2433), and it is being sponsored by none other than Senator Barack Obama.

According to some conservative sources, this disastrous legislation could eventually force U.S. taxpayers to fork over as much as 0.7 percent of the nation's Gross Domestic Product -- or $845,000,000,000.00 -- on welfare to third-world countries.
Here's what Phyllis Schlafly, conservative activist and founder of Eagle Forum, recently wrote:
"Obama's costly, dangerous and altogether bad bill (S. 2433), which could come up in the Senate any day, is called the Global Poverty Act. It would commit U.S. taxpayers to spend 0.7 percent of our Gross Domestic Product on foreign handouts..." [Emphasis Mine]
Time is of the essence because Senator Joe Biden, the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee just issued a report on the Global Poverty Act and it was placed on the Senate Legislative Calendar on Thursday the 24th.

That means that time is of the essence as this potentially massive surrender of your hard-earned tax dollars to the third world may be close to a vote.
That's why we must act today... BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!

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Let them know in no uncertain terms that you are watching and you will not tolerate massive United Nations style giveaways that are passed in the dark of night -- or in broad daylight for that matter. Tell them that putting us on the road to give billions to petty tyrants and dictators is NOT a solution to poverty.

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[Etta Place]

I'm not saying I agree with the provisions of the Global Poverty Act, but what should the U.S. or anybody do about people eating mud cookies to stave off hunger?

Global Poverty at its Worst: Mud Cookies in Haiti
Posted February 19, 2008 | 03:14 PM (EST)


The international media and blogosphere were aghast when Marie Noel told her story to the world... "I know its not good for me," answered Noel when asked by an Associated Press reporter why she was eating and selling mud cookies - meals made from a mixture of dirt, water, salt and vegetable shortening. "I am hoping one day I will have enough food to eat."

Noel lives in Cite Soliel, a slum in Haiti -- the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. Haiti has long battled malnutrition where most nights 23 percent of its children under five go to bed hungry. Because of rising food prices, many in the crowded slums have resorted to eating this mud cookie mixture to fill their bellies and stave off hunger pains. Why are Marie's mud cookies relevant to us? And what does it mean to people who want to help; private donors, foundations, churches and international aid agencies?

If Marie Noel knows that this mixture, this mud cookie, this bacteria-filled pastry is not good for her then why does she eat it? The simple answer -- she has few options. The U.N. Food and Agriculture Agency recently declared a state of emergency in Haiti after the country's already struggling economy was ravaged by global price hikes for food and oil as well as crop damage from the 2007 hurricane season.

So, what can we do? Do we send donations to Haiti? Do we ship Marie Noel some real cookies, or more like government funded food aid distribution or canned goods? This has been the norm for "charity" as most know it, but does not provide long-term solutions for Marie Noel's family. In Haiti, and other post-conflict, embargo-affected nations, the good deeds performed by a few may resolve an immediate problem, but do not address the root causes of poverty. I believe this is a question of having the right strategy.

Holistic solutions, such as those proposed by Jeffrey Sachs, Director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University, have dramatically changed the global perspective on international aid -- casting aside top-down strategies for more pragmatic, community-driven and science-based approaches to development. This strategy puts emphasis on sustainability and self-reliance, while factoring in the importance of cultural competency, partnership building, and global awareness.

In 2002, I was fortunate enough to meet a group of doctors from the University of Miami who founded an organization named Project Medishare for Haiti. They invited me to join a medical trip to experience the Haitian countryside and culture. The first thing I noticed about Project Medishare was a different strategy; one fueled by the community with emphasis on social justice and personal empowerment. It was clear that change is truly born from listening to family's needs, bringing together resources, providing educational opportunity and securing sustainable means to achieve results.

I was deeply inspired and ultimately decided to document their work on film as an awareness and fundraising tool. I wanted to highlight the positive outcomes of community-driven health initiatives: The impact of Directly Observed Therapy (DOTS) for HIV and tuberculosis patients, the network of community health workers doing home visits, and the medical students participating in mobile clinics throughout the countryside. This is a program using diverse strategies to elevate public health -- one of many components of healthy communities.

When I traveled to Haiti, I saw a country that was not in destitution, but bore a desperation for respect and dignity. I was immediately taken by the unwavering pride and constitution of the Haitian people and the country's incredible heritage. More than two hundred years ago, Haiti became the first Black independent nation in the world through the determination, strength, aptitude and successful rebellion of African slaves. Since its independence, Haiti has withstood broken promises, natural disasters, political upheaval and exploitation, but has remained proud and magnificent, a reluctant beacon in the fight for social justice. The Haitian people are strong, they are resilient, and they will play their part to elevate themselves from extreme poverty, but they cannot do it alone.

Partially due to the efforts of celebrities like Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, the mass media is now paying more attention to global poverty than ever before. The AP story of "poor Haitians" eating mud cookies was even picked up by Perez Hilton (who squeezed the article between a story of a pop star's break down and another's drug overdose).

Earlier this week a bill sponsored by Senator Barack Obama entitled the "Global Poverty Act" called for a global tax on the United States that would commit spending .7 percent of the GNP on foreign aid to help achieve the Millennium Development Goals. The lofty goals of this bill are, in fact, not that lofty at all -- its goals are basic human rights. There are many aspects to this bill to highlight: reducing maternal mortality, banning small weapons and arms trading, and ensuring basic universal aspirations for peace.

So, global poverty is now on the radar, and the uninformed are becoming more informed. To paraphrase Professor Sachs: for the first time in history we now have the resources, technology and know-how to end poverty in our lifetime. I believe the answer lays in interdisciplinary approaches -- empowering individuals by providing access to healthcare, means to improve crop production, education, clean water and a pathway to stable nutritional resources.

Once the media spotlight inevitably shifts from global poverty, we must remember that there are health agents, agronomists, educators, doctors and communities working together everyday to make a real difference -- creating solutions to these most difficult challenges. Helping people like Marie Noel -- because no one should have to eat mud cookies.

Kimberly Green: Global Poverty at its Worst: Mud Cookies in Haiti - Living on The Huffington Post

[Etta Place]

An overview of the goals and targets of the Millennium Project is here:

http://www.unmillenniumproject.org/d...gi-1LowRes.pdf

Jeffrey Sachs is the Director of the project. I think that's interesting.

[one-eyed-fatman]

I see another civil war happening.

[newKid]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

I'm not saying I agree with the provisions of the Global Poverty Act, but what should the U.S. or anybody do about people eating mud cookies to stave off hunger?



Kimberly Green: Global Poverty at its Worst: Mud Cookies in Haiti - Living on The Huffington Post

this is purely based on the deep bowels of my brain . . .

but dont we as a nation already send millions, if not billions more for global aid than anyone else? i mean, didnt Bush just ask for $770,000,000 for food aid? i think we do a lot already. i think the problem is, that the leaders are so corrupt in third world countries where the crisis is the worst , the aid ends up going to officials or warlords and not to starving people. im not saying we need to stop sending money to starving peoples, but we need to make sure it goes directly to help the people who need it. If we cant find a way to do that (and im not opposed to doing it through force) then we should keep the money at home, and do something, like pay back China with it. . .