Saying Goodbye

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

The statement wasn't directed at the original poster. It was a response to the question someone posed to LUVMYSIG when he said "one down."

As far as I'm concerned, America-haters can leave the forum. For that matter, they can leave the country. Exactly why I suggest Obama and Clinton, and well, McCain is getting there, I suggest they all find a new country to live it and run for public office who would be more receptive to their Marxist anti-American ideals.

Understood!
So please provide a full definition of America-haters !!
You have mentioned not supporting the troops is justification to leave the forums, and also leave the country. So fill me in. I want to know who you feel should leave the forums, and country. But more importantly, I want to know exactly what one must do, or not do ... To attain an approval rating from you.

What is the definition that gets an individual kicked out of the country ??

Should Etta Leave ??
She seems to be your current target.

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

If I remember correctly, that's the ignore function play to the left on 2, right?

It only works if you use it

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by AZXD

Understood!
So please provide a full definition of America-haters !!
You have mentioned not supporting the troops is justification to leave the forums, and also leave the country. So fill me in. I want to know who you feel should leave the forums, and country. But more importantly, I want to know exactly what one must do, or not do ... To attain an approval rating from you.

What is the definition that gets an individual kicked out of the country ??

Should Etta Leave ??
She seems to be your current target.

Are you being mean again??

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by justgotback

Are you being mean again??

Perhaps

But really, if someone is going to use a paintbrush, I want to know what motivates the painter.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

Have at it, but can you keep up with the pretty girls on TV?



No, but many of the principles I talked about are common ground for morals in general. Face it, there are more people who follow a Judeo-Christian type faith than any other in our government. Doesn't make it the standard, but it certainly has an influence, but as I said, thou shall not murder and thou shall not steal are pretty straight forward and you shouldn't need a book to tell you that.



And those people helping the Iraqis weren't there until there was a relative degree of security. How many times have the UN Peacekeepers been withdrawn due to violence in Africa and around the world? Those organizations generally go in after the dust clears.



What's your point? I can say the same about the welfare system here within our borders. I can say the same about government funded housing. I can say the same for food stamps. I can say the same about all the general benefits handed out without any sort of system to ensure that people aren't making a living and lifestyle at my (and your) expense. At least with the war in Iraq, we don't have a Saddam Hussein committing terrible acts violating basically every human right of any person he feels like.



Another America-hating comment, no surprise. It's always our fault when natural disasters strike. It's always our fault when civil war in Africa breaks out. It's always our fault when people are oppressed under tyrannical dictatorships. It's always our fault the Cubans haven't been allowed to have cell phones, microwaves, or electric rice cookers until recently. It's always our fault. If you hate the US and western culture so much, go join Al-Qaeda.



I'm tired of the stuff the government is doing here. I don't want our federal government to do anything but repeal all the crap and garbage legislation that has brought this country down.

It galls me that people live in this country and criticize everything about it. It galls me that people want to stay American citizens, but hate this country, its military, its lifestyle, its system of economics, and everything else about it.



Sure. You probably think Saddam was good for those people. You probably think Che Guevara was great for all the Jews and Catholics. You probably thought Castro was great for freedom and individual liberty.

You're awfully dogmatic for someone so young.

[jdavionic]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

The statement wasn't directed at the original poster. It was a response to the question someone posed to LUVMYSIG when he said "one down."

As far as I'm concerned, America-haters can leave the forum. For that matter, they can leave the country. Exactly why I suggest Obama and Clinton, and well, McCain is getting there, I suggest they all find a new country to live it and run for public office who would be more receptive to their Marxist anti-American ideals.

Standing by for the inevitable...'I'm more pro-American than others because I shall not sit idle and watch others destroy our country...' Yeah, yeah, yeah....critics are a dime a dozen. Do these people believe that we (USA) have ever done good for the world? Fighting the Germans, Japanese...good or bad? And rather than Monday morning quarterback everything, what would we do today & tomorrow to satisfy their criteria for us be deemed a "good" country?

[jdavionic]

BTW - kudos to the original poster for making a post under false premise to invite the anti-war crowd to jump in and spawn the debate that we are now having. It was so predictable that was truly "sad", but for much different reasons. This thread could have been something special for recognizing those that made the ultimate sacrifice for our country. Unfortunately it was a catalyst used to bait folks into the debate that was, IMO, the original intent of the OP.

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by jdavionic

BTW - kudos to the original poster for making a post under false premise to invite the anti-war crowd to jump in and spawn the debate that we are now having. It was so predictable that was truly "sad", but for much different reasons. This thread could have been something special for recognizing those that made the ultimate sacrifice for our country. Unfortunately it was a catalyst used to bait folks into the debate that was, IMO, the original intent of the OP.

I guess we will never know the original intent because jkswiss has left the forum.

Things were going very well until post #3 brought to light differences of opinion, and it could have remained that way ... But some chose to use the opportunity and sidetrack a thread that could have stayed positive.

For the record, I am one who is very tired of our civilian leadership keeping the troops in harms way. They did not listen to the top military advisors and it now seems they listen as an act from some poorly written play. Honestly, more than a few of these civilians should be on temporary duty assignment in Iraq, helping to firm up the Iraqi government.

[jdavionic]

Originally Posted by AZXD

I guess we will never know the original intent because jkswiss has left the forum.

2 assumptions being made there. First, that he will actually stand by his assertion that he was leaving. And two, even if he does return, do you honestly think he'd state that the true intention of his OP if it was as it appears?

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by jdavionic

2 assumptions being made there. First, that he will actually stand by his assertion that he was leaving. And two, even if he does return, do you honestly think he'd state that the true intention of his OP if it was as it appears?

I guess that depends on the individual. Myself, if I did something just to stir things up .... I'd hangout and watch the show, add a comment every so often to fan the flames, and would have never said I am leaving.

Also, I'd have choosen a different subject because I feel any thread that discusses the troops should be one sided and supportive to their mission. There are to many photo-op pictures of idiots traipsing through the sand with smiles on their faces as they show false support toward the efforts of our military personnel. I'd have found a picture of a politician.