U.S. Imprisons more people than China and Russia

[Pharmakon]

Conservatives and neo-cons calling anyone they don't agree with a liberal has gotten about as tired as liberals calling anyone they don't agree with a facist.

It's even more ironic when you think that historically modern liberals came from facism and new repulicans and neo-cons are now the big goverment big spending economy stagnators and medlers.

By the way anyone who has not read "Liberal Facism" by Jonah Goldberg yet is really missing out.

You guys that are bashing Etta should realize something. If, hypothetically, Obama becomes presedent and appoints liberal SC Judges, retains a liberal majority in congress and manages to seize power of the country, instututing all kinds of socialist agendas, welfare, anti-gun, pro nanny state style government and you speak out against it (something that the now hypothetical American government is doing) does that make you anti-american. According to your logic it should because that's what the country is doing and you are speaking against it so you must be against the country right.
Etta is against big government, wasteful spending, empire building and restrictions to the constitution. That already makes her a hell of a lot more conservative that a lot of elected republicans.

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by Dutter

No, but I would. I respect and honor the people who have and thank the people who do.

What's your point ?

So what's holding you back?

[UncleBuck]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

Excellent body.....

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by eric_t12

well maybe you and JGB should try something other than using the "you're an anti-american" jargon and insinuation that is quite common in your posts.

ask this guy Hermann Goering about that. he wasn't american, by the way.

Hey little man, I never dubbed anyone anti American. Read closely prior to posting.....

[Dutter]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

So what's holding you back?

I'll try again.....

What point are you trying to make ?

If my country asked me to fight, I would.

[Dutter]

Originally Posted by Pharmakon

Conservatives and neo-cons calling anyone they don't agree with a liberal has gotten about as tired as liberals calling anyone they don't agree with a facist.

It's even more ironic when you think that historically modern liberals came from facism and new repulicans and neo-cons are now the big goverment big spending economy stagnators and medlers.

By the way anyone who has not read "Liberal Facism" by Jonah Goldberg yet is really missing out.

You guys that are bashing Etta should realize something. If, hypothetically, Obama becomes presedent and appoints liberal SC Judges, retains a liberal majority in congress and manages to seize power of the country, instututing all kinds of socialist agendas, welfare, anti-gun, pro nanny state style government and you speak out against it (something that the now hypothetical American government is doing) does that make you anti-american. According to your logic it should because that's what the country is doing and you are speaking against it so you must be against the country right.
Etta is against big government, wasteful spending, empire building and restrictions to the constitution. That already makes her a hell of a lot more conservative that a lot of elected republicans.

I'm happy to see that in the middle of all that nonsense there is a well deserved plug for Jonah Goldberg....! It is a good read.

[Delija]

Originally Posted by Dutter

Try to keep up here, Delija. Although Senator McCarthy could be accused of being ham-fisted at times, it has been proven that he was absolutely correct about communists and communist sympathizers in the State Department and other government entities in the 30's and 40's. Please read Stan Evans' new book, Blacklisted by History if you have an interest in the subject.

Yeah, right. How many books do you think have been written about McCarthy, and how many make him out to be a hero and how many a villain? It wasn't that he was 100% wrong, the issue was he was not 100% right. Didn't even attempt to be. Waved around blank pages with "lists" of "communists", but wouldn't say who was on them. Made false accusations and implications against people who were innocent...

Originally Posted by Dutter

I'm sorry that you find the recognition of people's anti-American tendencies dull. But equating them to Nazi's still gives you fabulous thrill !!!!!

LOL.....Why am I not surprised you miss the entire point of the Goering quote? It isn't about Nazis, it's about what he said...that it makes no difference what kind of government you have....it's easy to manipulate the population and lead them by the nose when you have the very effective tactic of portraying anyone who expresses dissent as "unpatriotic"....As you have been doing with Etta.

Originally Posted by Dutter

Oh. I LOVE Ann Coulter. (yes, I know....shouting....)

How sad for you. Unrequited love. Do you send her love letters and stalk her?

Whatever Dutter.....I don't care who you "love" or admire. You are entitled to your opinion. I'd just suggest that it's a bit over the top to call someone "Anti-American" just for exercising their right to free speech and verbal dissent. If you'd prefer a censored political environment, perhaps it's YOU that is "anti-American"....Would you be more comfortable in a political atmosphere such as was enforced in the USSR under Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, etc., and in China under Mao?

Peace,
D.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

Or send them to the U.S. for work...

Good one! I work with a lot of Chinese - but they're scientists, not criminals - at least I don't think so!

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by Pharmakon

Conservatives and neo-cons calling anyone they don't agree with a liberal has gotten about as tired as liberals calling anyone they don't agree with a facist.

It's even more ironic when you think that historically modern liberals came from facism and new repulicans and neo-cons are now the big goverment big spending economy stagnators and medlers.

By the way anyone who has not read "Liberal Facism" by Jonah Goldberg yet is really missing out.

According to Pat Buchanan, the neocons are the inheritors of Wilson, as several architects of the PNAC were former Democrats.

Also, according to a review in the NY Times by a University of Texas professor, Goldberg's book is pretty one-sided in its criticism of fascism. There are liberal hawks, but the Republicans have got the militarism side of fascism down pretty good.

[Dutter]

Originally Posted by Delija

Yeah, right. How many books do you think have been written about McCarthy, and how many make him out to be a hero and how many a villain? It wasn't that he was 100% wrong, the issue was he was not 100% right. Didn't even attempt to be. Waved around blank pages with "lists" of "communists", but wouldn't say who was on them. Made false accusations and implications against people who were innocent...



LOL.....Why am I not surprised you miss the entire point of the Goering quote? It isn't about Nazis, it's about what he said...that it makes no difference what kind of government you have....it's easy to manipulate the population and lead them by the nose when you have the very effective tactic of portraying anyone who expresses dissent as "unpatriotic"....As you have been doing with Etta.


How sad for you. Unrequited love. Do you send her love letters and stalk her?

Whatever Dutter.....I don't care who you "love" or admire. You are entitled to your opinion. I'd just suggest that it's a bit over the top to call someone "Anti-American" just for exercising their right to free speech and verbal dissent. If you'd prefer a censored political environment, perhaps it's YOU that is "anti-American"....Would you be more comfortable in a political atmosphere such as was enforced in the USSR under Stalin, Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Andropov, etc., and in China under Mao?

Peace,
D.

I assure you that 99% of what you think you know about McCarthy is wrong, as evidenced by your first paragraph above. And in your last paragraph, you seem to be saying that you believe communism is a bad idea.....so what's your problem with McCarthy? He was anti-communist too. Please spare me the part about how he ruined innocent people's lives and careers....it didn't happen.

You admiringly quote a Nazi, and I am not supposed to notice ?

As for Etta, I'm not trying to stop her from droning on and on with her anti-American nonsense (that would be un-American).....I'm just pointing out, again, (you can't really be this dense), that what she posts (trying not to shout here) is almost always anti-American in it's tone and content.

And you brought up Ann.....sweet, lovable Ann...............