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Old 05-11-2008, 06:44 PM   #71
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"massively increase the size of the federal government." Like California, Oregon, Washington, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Illinois, Wisconsin, Maryland, etc...

Where are the highest incarceration's rates?

You sound just like the NY Slimes or one of the other liberal media that are contaminating our paper and airwaves. I'm not convinced that you are not one of them. As a matter of fact, I'm not, nor ever will be convinced that your not a purebred liberal! You use the same rational, or lack of rational, in your personal reasoning and reiterate, nothing but, liberal conclusions in your posts.

I'll not read another of your stupid copies and paste, probably not another of your post!
So what if I'm a liberal? There are liberal gun owners in this country.

I'm not a true liberal though if I favor reducing the size of government, am I?
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Old 05-11-2008, 06:46 PM   #72
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I get tired of hearing liberal mouthpieces complain about racial disparity in prisons. Watch the news. You lock up those who are committing the crimes. Simple as that.
But Geez if we did that we'd have half the lawyers and judges in America in prison as well as a lot more politicians. Who'd be left to continue destroying our nation.
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:17 PM   #73
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I would defend anyone that was labled as such, jgb. I am very suspicious of the government, and very anti-war...Does that make me anti-American?
And I don't really give a damn what you think!

Wow you two must be even closer than I thought.... LOL!!!
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:33 PM   #74
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It's not a fair comparison to China: if their prison population is relatively low, it's because they execute them faster than McDonalds makes hamburgers.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:05 PM   #75
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It's not a fair comparison to China: if their prison population is relatively low, it's because they execute them faster than McDonalds makes hamburgers.
Or send them to the U.S. for work...
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I have never seen you post anything that was pro-American, only things that are anti-American. define anti-american. i always thought expression of ideas (not with force, because words aren't force, nor is posting on a forum page... ) was quite american. maybe i missed that in history class. So that makes you.........?

If it wasn't for brave men and women picking up a gun and being ready, willing and able to kill those who would seek the destruction of this nation and the freedom you mean like the freedom of speech and expression? i also like how you put the nation before the freedom it represents... not. it represents, you and I would be dead or enslaved by now. What would you fight for..........?

Our government is doing a good job at one of the few things the Constitution grants it the power to do: killing people who want to kill me. except osama bin laden, you know, the one that really DID try to kill you. That aside, there is a mountain of things the federal government has NO business being involved in..........they could do a better job by ceasing, immediately.

No society is without flaws. But our form of government, a constitutional republic, is the best thing that has ever happened to anybody, anywhere. so there is no reason to make it better. period. no matter what happens here is best. even if we're a socialist shill someday, like england, or slip into deep fascism like germany, 'its still better here'. Where would you rather live...........? Are there any flights leaving today ?

I don't care what party you belong to or which idiot you are going to vote for. I care about the principles and values on which this country was founded. except the principles of freedom of speech and expression, apparently. People like you care about something else.....I give you the benefit of the doubt by referring to you as a socialist, rather than a communist. What have you posted that would lead me to think anything else ?

Yes, I concede that you should be able to smoke your dope without being hassled....we'll see how far that gets you.

How do you feel about the War on Poverty ? Smashing success....?

Sorry, all, that this has become so "off topic", but she's like a train wreck that I can't stop looking at.......
well maybe you and JGB should try something other than using the "you're an anti-american" jargon and insinuation that is quite common in your posts.

ask this guy Hermann Goering about that. he wasn't american, by the way.
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I'm not a true liberal though if I favor reducing the size of government, am I?
yes you are.



liberal like this guy.

ooooh, you horrible lib.
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Old 05-11-2008, 08:47 PM   #78
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yes you are.



liberal like this guy.

ooooh, you horrible lib.
So you are comparing Etta to Patrick Henry? . That is kinda funny to me. Nothing very liberal about Patrick Henry. I don't believe he would favor higher taxes to support socially expedient programs like welfare, affirmative action, and the like. And before you even say it, no I don't believe he would think much of Bush either.
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I think that a liberal view is at least partially at fault for our prison numbers bieng so high. But only in that those views have a hard time making the punishment fit the crime. They make a stay in our prison system somewhat equivalent to that of a bad resort, and manage to argue the point that our capital punishment system (particularly lethal injection) is cruel and unusual. One might say that it is among the most humane ways to execute someone compared to other countries in the world. Did anyone think to ask the relatives of the victim if their loved one's untimely murder was cruel and unusual?

The biggest problem with the justice system is that its far too easy on the criminals. Make the punishment fit the crime. Make a stay in our prison system so bad that you never ever want to go back.
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Old 05-11-2008, 09:11 PM   #80
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well maybe you and JGB should try something other than using the "you're an anti-american" jargon and insinuation that is quite common in your posts.

ask this guy Hermann Goering about that. he wasn't american, by the way.
Eric....this isn't that hard.

Almost every single one of her (Etta) excruciatingly long and mind-numbingly predictable cut-and-paste articles has to do with how bad, misguided, arrogant, criminal, mean, imperialist, unjust and hated the United States of America is, be it our government, our policies or our elected officials.

This is not what normal people call 'pro-American'. We call it 'anti-American'.

She can believe it, she can say it, she can express it, she can cut-and-paste it 'til her keyboard starts to smoke..... I have yet to tell her to shut the " f " up. I'm just calling it what it is. Perhaps I have a better grasp of the readily apparent than you do.

Bad-mouthing your country at every opportunity is not patriotism.

Love the Nazi reference....again..... Delicious.

Oh.....'American' should be capitalized.

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