Barack Hussein Obama

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

Sure they do. I'm one of them BTW. That does not mean that I'm willing to give up my vote to a man that promises "change" without spelling out what this entails or any sort of clear, concise plan on how to implement it.

What is McCain's "clear, concise plan?"

[one-eyed-fatman]

Brickboy240 says: All of you that plan on voting for Obama or would even consider voting for him...are you all cool with 8-10 bucks a gallon for your gasoline?

But, but, but... the butthead that runs our nation now says he has no control over the price of oil. How can Obami control it? And I believe BB himself has defended the oil industry and Bush on many occasions on how it's not their fault the prices have gotten so high. So now all of a sudden he can say if Obambi gets into the Whitehouse the price of oil will go sky high? How can that be. DUH!

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

What is McCain's "clear, concise plan?"

I don't know. How is that relevant to my post? I thought we were taking about Obama.

[Palmguy]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

That's not saying much! Basically half the Congress is Republican. What's your point?

Except for the part where both houses are controlled by the Democrats. It was more of a rhetorical statement trying to find out what your point is about the 81% and what that has to do with anything. You seem to be implying that because so many people think we are on the wrong track that "change" (tm) is in order away from Republicans. I was saying that of the two "partisan" branches of government, the one headed by Republicans has higher approval ratings than the one headed by Democrats.

[Palmguy]

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

But, but, but... the butthead that runs our nation now says he has no control over the price of oil. How can Obami control it? And I believe BB himself has defended the oil industry and Bush on many occasions on how it's not their fault the prices have gotten so high. So now all of a sudden he can say if Obambi gets into the Whitehouse the price of oil will go sky high? How can that be. DUH!

There is a difference between being able to directly control the price of oil when it's obvious that there are external forces at work and instituting policies domestically that will undoubtedly compound the problem.

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

Sure they do. I'm one of them BTW. That does not mean that I'm willing to give up my vote to a man that promises "change" without spelling out what this entails or any sort of clear, concise plan on how to implement it.

When was the last time you voted for someone who did make promises and and spelled out what his entails or any sort of clear, concise plan was going to be and how to implement it. Never. We have never had a politician that was smart enough to do that. At least not in the last twenty years.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

Sure they do. I'm one of them BTW. That does not mean that I'm willing to give up my vote to a man that promises "change" without spelling out what this entails or any sort of clear, concise plan on how to implement it.

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

When was the last time you voted for someone who did make promises and and spelled out what his entails or any sort of clear, concise plan was going to be and how to implement it. Never. We have never had a politician that was smart enough to do that. At least not in the last twenty years.

Who else in this election is running with a single vague issue like "change"? My post referred to Obama's platform, or in his case a really skinny 2x4 board.

Let me be a little more clear in saying that if Obama came out with a clear, concise plan tomorrow I'm sure the details in it would scare the s**t out of me and most, but not all, of the members of this forum. I'm quite sure that this is why no details have been forthcoming.

Do all politicians do this? Absolutely. It's too easy to get pinned down if you get specific.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by Palmguy

Except for the part where both houses are controlled by the Democrats. It was more of a rhetorical statement trying to find out what your point is about the 81% and what that has to do with anything. You seem to be implying that because so many people think we are on the wrong track that "change" (tm) is in order away from Republicans. I was saying that of the two "partisan" branches of government, the one headed by Republicans has higher approval ratings than the one headed by Democrats.

That's not saying much. Gallup last month had Bush at 28% and Congress at 20%. Not very encouraging to either party if you ask me.

I don't blame Americans for holding Congress in such low regard. They voted to make a change in 2006, because the Republicans were so corrupt, and nothing has changed. I think people have gotten to the point that they just have no faith in the institution whatsoever.

[XDConvert9mm]

I'm watching CNN right now and Wolf Blitzer just pinned down Obama on what he considers "Middle Class" The answer Obama gave was "Certainly if you're a family making 100K or less then you deserve some relief".

Think maybe he was pandering to the CNN viewership?

[jmichna]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

That's not saying much. Gallup last month had Bush at 28% and Congress at 20%. Not very encouraging to either party if you ask me....

So, Bush's approval rating is 40% greater than the Democrat-controlled Congress!

(28%-20%)/20% x 100 = 40%