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Captain Jack · 05-05-2008, 10:46 PM

It kind of makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with people? Bright orange plugs are not enough now? What will they ban next from kids/collecors? Slingshots? Waterballoons? This reminds me of what Australia did. Not only did they ban real guns, but ALL things that resemble a gun. This may not be a big deal for people who shoot real guns, but big problems often arise from very small ones for us gun enthusiasts. What bothers me most is the seemingly sneaky last sentence that is bolded. Why would someone use a fake gun for self defense, hunting, and museum display? Is this person confused about the difference between a real gun and a toy gun? Yes, like I, or my kid (if I ever have one) will go hunting with a fake toy gun with a bright orange plug. Or use one to protect myself by squirting the bad guy with luke-warm water.

Sorry, it may mean nothing to folks here, but it bothers me...

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According to a recent article on Yahoo News, there are a number of new bills in Congress to work on making the toy gun laws in the United States even more strict in many states:

"Among those 15 states, seven bills limiting fake guns are pending this year and 21 have been enacted since 1990, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Some states have enacted or are considering multiple measures. They range from prohibiting imitation firearms in vehicles to banning the toys from convenience stores.

Tennessee lawmakers are considering a proposal by state Rep. John Deberry to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display or expose "an imitation firearm in a public place in a threatening manner." Exceptions include justifiable self defense, lawful hunting, and displays such as a museum collection."

XD40DucheKiller · 05-05-2008, 11:05 PM

um

wow

Captain Jack · 05-05-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by XD40DucheKiller

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wow

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or if you're really stunned by this...?

JRH · 05-05-2008, 11:30 PM

The Museum display part has me scratching my head and wondring who their supplier is.

jeepinbanditrider · 05-06-2008, 03:34 AM

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to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display or expose "an imitation firearm in a public place in a threatening manner." Exceptions include justifiable self defense, lawful hunting, and displays such as a museum collection."

Not being able to read the actual law I don't see what the problem here is. I mean all it does is make it illegal to use the fake gun in a threatning manner I.E. pointing it at someone and threating to shoot them if they don't give you their money.

I don't see how it would make it illegal to airsoft as it's not really threating when you are all playing a game similar to paintball. Hell according to that you can use it to defend yourself.

Conceyted · 05-06-2008, 05:08 AM

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Not being able to read the actual law I don't see what the problem here is. I mean all it does is make it illegal to use the fake gun in a threatning manner I.E. pointing it at someone and threating to shoot them if they don't give you their money.

I don't see how it would make it illegal to airsoft as it's not really threating when you are all playing a game similar to paintball. Hell according to that you can use it to defend yourself.

+1 What is the real story that everyone is freaking out about?

daveofspades · 05-06-2008, 05:49 AM

I think the problem is this:

"to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display"

Since there is a conjunction in there this appears to be one aspect of the law. If it is worded anything like this, it means your kids can't play in the front yard with toy guns because they would be intentionally displaying said guns.

I think it just boils down to a slippery slope argument and the fact that if kids are kept away from even toy guns it will help build a fear of them later which will help the anti constitutionalists in the long run.

DD

yeahYeah · 05-06-2008, 06:03 AM

ummmm...my brother and i would get those clear/orange ones and just spray paint em to make em look real.

we were pretty gangster at the age of 11

XD40DucheKiller · 05-06-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Jack

I can't tell if that's sarcasm or if you're really stunned by this...?

im really stunned that they banned toy guns. i think its crap and im glad i live in america.

no sarcasm here buddy

dreydin · 05-06-2008, 11:33 AM

and so it begins........

05-05-2008, 11:30 PM	#4
JRH XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North East Ohio Posts: 806	The Museum display part has me scratching my head and wondring who their supplier is. __________________ Last, but by no means least, courage--moral courage, the courage of one's convictions, the courage to see things through. The world is in a constant conspiracy against the brave. It's the age-old struggle--the roar of the crowd on one side and the voice of your conscience on the other. -Douglas MacArthur

05-06-2008, 05:49 AM	#7
daveofspades XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 463	I think the problem is this: "to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display" Since there is a conjunction in there this appears to be one aspect of the law. If it is worded anything like this, it means your kids can't play in the front yard with toy guns because they would be intentionally displaying said guns. I think it just boils down to a slippery slope argument and the fact that if kids are kept away from even toy guns it will help build a fear of them later which will help the anti constitutionalists in the long run. DD __________________ "The military is for fighting the enemies of the state. The police are there to defend and protect the people. When the military becomes the police, the enemies of the state become the people." - Commander Adama, The New Battlestar Galactica

05-06-2008, 06:03 AM	#8
yeahYeah XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Vegas Posts: 3,073	ummmm...my brother and i would get those clear/orange ones and just spray paint em to make em look real. we were pretty gangster at the age of 11 __________________ "Around this turn where the cross will cast your shadow. The people will all gather to remember such a day. Where the flames grew as high as trees. And the world stopped for you and me... ...Pain has never been so brilliant. I made sure you were buckled in. Now you can walk hand in hand with Him"

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dreydin XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,329	and so it begins........ __________________ XD-40 SC bi-tone - hard chromed w/TFOs

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XD40DucheKiller XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 534	um wow