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Old 05-05-2008, 11:49 AM   #1
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Sandy "Burglar" Documents Stay Concealed

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May 05, 2008

(CNSNews.com) - The William Jefferson Clinton Presidential Library will not make available to the public the documents that former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger illegally took from the National Archives in 2003.

A letter from the library said the total 502 pages from the Millennium Alert After Action Review (MAAR) are "restricted in their entirety," under federal law and that the documents are "classified in the interest of national defense or foreign policy."

Further, the library stated the documents contain "confidential communications requesting or submitting advice between the president and his advisors, or between such advisors."

The library's letter was in response to a Freedom of Information Act request from CNS . The library has responded to several other requests, but in those cases it was to inform CNSNews.com that library staff was processing the request.

Berger, who was national security advisor for President Clinton from 1997 to 2001, took five different copies of pages from the classified MAAR out of the archives by stuffing them in his suit and exiting the archives building. Berger did that at a time (September-October 2003) when the 9/11 Commission was beginning to investigate both the Clinton and Bush administrations' handling of the terror threat in the led up to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

The Millennium Alert After Action Review was reportedly a 1999 assessment of how the nation was handling terrorist threats. The assessment was distributed to only 15 people in the Clinton administration and contained 29 recommendations, according to published reports.

On Oct. 2, 2003, Berger removed four documents, each of which were versions of MAAR. Berger left the building and later went to a construction area, according to the National Archives Inspector General's (IG) report. He removed documents from his pockets, folded the documents and slid them under a trailer at the construction site, the report said. That night, the IG reported, Berger went to his office and cut with scissors three of the four pilfered documents into small pieces.

When the National Archives contacted him two days later to say documents were missing, he said he did not take them, according to the IG report. Berger later called the archives to tell them he found two of the documents, but not the other two.

In April 2005, he pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor charge of removing and retaining classified material. He was fined $50,000, sentenced to two years probation and 100 hours community service, and stripped of his security clearance for three years. He also relinquished his license to practice law.
I still find it hard to believe Berger only got a hand-slap for actually stealing and destroying NAS documents, and Scooter Libby got a jail term and a $250,000 fine for "uncovering" someone who was not a covert agent in the first place.

Go figure....
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A letter from the library said the total 502 pages from the Millennium Alert After Action Review (MAAR) are "restricted in their entirety," under federal law and that the documents are "classified in the interest of national defense or foreign policy."
They forgot to mention that it might hurt the nomination and election of Monica's ex-boyfriends wife.
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Good to see others are still paying attention to this...

It is really sad that nobody seems to care about what he took and why he took it.

What do you think would happen to the average joe if he stole something from the national archives??

Update: Sandy Burglar steals from National Archives

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Good to see others are still paying attention to this...

It is really sad that nobody seems to care about what he took and why he took it.

What do you think would happen to the average joe if he stole something from the national archives??

Update: Sandy Burglar steals from National Archives

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I wondered if you were going to chime in.

This still amazes me to this day. **** Clinton, and the horse he rode in on. It should also be noted that Berger is serving as foreign policy adviser for the other Clinton. With leadership like that, how could we possibly go wrong.
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I wondered if you were going to chime in.

This still amazes me to this day. **** Clinton, and the horse he rode in on. It should also be noted that Berger is serving as foreign policy adviser for the other Clinton. With leadership like that, how could we possibly go wrong.
Exactly--I pointed that out recently in another thread. They actually hired the moron to work for them.

This really should have been covered as HUGE scandal, but it hardly made any waves in the MSM.

Some investigations have revealed that we don't even know for sure exactly what he took from the archives.

He has also never been forced to explain what he took and why he took it.

I'm betting he stole stuff that would have damaged the Clintons. Them hiring him to work for the campaign must be a reward.

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Exactly--I pointed that out recently in another thread. They actually hired the moron to work for them.

This really should have been covered as HUGE scandal, but it hardly made any waves in the MSM.

Some investigations have revealed that we don't even know for sure exactly what he took from the archives.

He has also never been forced to explain what he took and why he took it.

I'm betting he stole stuff that would have damaged the Clintons. Them hiring him to work for the campaign must be a reward.

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Personally, I dont think we will ever know the truth of what really happened on 9/11, or leading up to 9/11, and this is one of the causes. How much of that information is now missing or destroyed?
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Personally, I dont think we will ever know the truth of what really happened on 9/11, or leading up to 9/11, and this is one of the causes. How much of that information is now missing or destroyed?
Both yourself and Frank make it sound like the government is working for and should answer to the public ..... They don't work that way. Just ask them.

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I still find it hard to believe Berger only got a hand-slap for actually stealing and destroying NAS documents, and Scooter Libby got a jail term and a $250,000 fine for "uncovering" someone who was not a covert agent in the first place.

Go figure....
Do we have to recycle that lie ad nauseum?

Libby got convicted of:

1) OOJ (obstruction of Justice)

2) Perjury

3) Lying to federal investigators

That's what he was convicted of and that's what he was sentenced for.

PERIOD.

Know who else got prison time for lying to the feds? martha Stewart. Only she didn't have a president who would over ride the justice system and let her skate without serving one second of her time.

Go figure....
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Do we have to recycle that lie ad nauseum?

Libby got convicted of:

1) OOJ (obstruction of Justice)

2) Perjury

3) Lying to federal investigators

That's what he was convicted of and that's what he was sentenced for.

PERIOD.

Know who else got prison time for lying to the feds? martha Stewart. Only she didn't have a president who would over ride the justice system and let her skate without serving one second of her time.

Go figure....
Okay, I'll play this game:
1) What justice was obstructed, specifically?
2) What perjury, specifically, did Libby commit?
3) What, specifically, did Libby lie about to Federal investigators?
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From a Christopher Hitchins assessment:
  • Mr. Libby was not charged with breaking the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.
  • Nobody was ever charged with breaking that law, designed to shield the names of covert agents. Indeed, the prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, determined that the law had not been broken in the first place.
  • The identity of the person who disclosed the name of Valerie Plame to Robert Novak—his name is Richard Armitage, incidentally—was known to those investigating the non-illegal leak before the full-dress inquiry began to grind its way through the system, incidentally imprisoning one reporter and consuming thousands of man hours of government time (and in time of war, at that).
  • In the other two "counts" in the case, both involving conversations with reporters (Judith Miller of the New York Times and Matthew Cooper of Time), Judge Reggie Walton threw out the Miller count while the jury found for Libby on the Cooper count.
  • The call to Russert was not about Plame in any case; it was a complaint from the vice president's office about Chris Matthews, who was felt by some to have been overstressing the Jewish names associated with the removal of Saddam Hussein. Russert was called in his capacity as bureau chief; any chitchat about Wilson and Plame was secondary.
  • The call was made after Robert Novak had put his fateful column (generated by Richard Armitage) on the wire, and after he had mentioned Plame's identity to Karl Rove.
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