Big Government Responsible for High Gas Prices

[akhimark]

Democrats' Energy Plan: Tax, Sue, and Investigate

To most Americans, addressing rising energy prices might include at least a bow to the law of supply and demand. It might contain some true common sense ideas such as stepped-up exploration, added domestic refinery capacity, or other measures to increase U.S. energy and reduce dependence on foreign supplies.
But Democrats made clear they have other priorities. They want to tax, sue and investigate their way out of this problem.

Townhall.com:emocrats' Energy Plan: Tax, Sue, and Investigate::By John Cornyn

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by FrankRizzoXD40

but bountyhunter told me that the big oil companies are the ones arbitrarily setting the prices for oil

Now you are telling me that it is our own gubment's fault?!??!

Frank

I take it you're looking to continue something in this thread. To bad BH hasn't posted in this thread. Best of luck

[ForTehNguyen]

blame world oil speculators and brokers for bidding up the price

[eric_t12]

i heard it was the increased threat of terrorism and 'regional instability' in the countries who supply the oil that drove up prices...

[Delija]

Originally Posted by eric_t12

i heard it was the increased threat of terrorism and 'regional instability' in the countries who supply the oil that drove up prices...

So why is gas twelve cents a gallon at the pump in Venezuela?

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Delija

So why is gas twelve cents a gallon at the pump in Venezuela?

Because they are using a diferent playbook, with different types of propaganda

[Brickboy240]

Gas is also way under a dollar a gallon in many places in the Middle East like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, too. Its not just Venezuela.

I am glad to see some stumbling towards the light on this one and realizing that YES...your govt...both parties....and their actions and inactions for the past 30 years have given us the prices we have today.

I know...its a hard fact to swallow, when you have big media (who hate the oil companies and successful capitalists in general) blasting oil company profits alone (without talking about margins or how much the oil companies paid in taxes). Then you have Congress that brings forth the oil CEOs for a dog and pony bitch session becaue they themselves are either clueless as to what they have done (or not done) to cause the high prices...or...the scarier prediction...Congress has these sessions to decieve the public into thinking that it IS the big oil CEOs that are being plain greedy. Their attempt to cast blame in another direction...so you won't figure out that yes...its Congress' fault for the high prices.

Fact: there are NO sitting members in Congress that were successful workers in the energy industry. Energy policy in the USA for the last 30 years has been written by ex-lawyers, failed businessmen or marginally successful ones and/or those that have never worked in a private sector job at all. Some are lifelong urban dwellers that hate all large successful industries, period. How could you EVER expect a bunch like this to deliver an energy policy that was remotely sound? Both parties are to blame for this. Neither has a handle on sound energy policies that deals with the hear and now.

Going into this election, the two Democratic candidates plans will guarantee you 10 buck plus a gallon. At the best case scenario, McCain's energy policies might keep things as they are now. Wonderful place we have gotten to...isn't it? Well...these are your choices like it or not. And God knows we need to deal with what we have NOW...and stop dreaming and wishing for some miracle cure or altenative because its just not out there or even close to widespread useage.

Its also hard to face...but we need to do it..that taking the advice of the Green lobby has also gotten us the where we are right now. The Green lobby does not care if you and I pay 10 bucks a gallon for gas. They hate all big industry and want it all closed down and you and I walking or riding a bicycle everywhere we go. The Greens don't care how hampering big oil will make our economc situation even worse than it is right now. They don't care how many real jobs will be lost as oil compaines move out of the USA and set up shop somewhere else.

The Green lobby pretends to be caring and altruistic but the truth is they do not care if the US economy is ground to a halt or you lose your job...only about their selfish agenda. Many in the Green crusade stand to gain monetarily, from dashing carbon based fuels and going to solar panels or wind farms. They will have made their money and moved on long after we buy into these things and realize that they're not efficient enough. Again...they don't care whether or not it works long term or accomplishes a thing. Many of the green warriors are...surprise...in it only because they can make money from the conversion to alternative sources. Why do you think they're so insistent?

Wake up people...the red light on the dashboard has been on for several miles. Its time we do something before it truly is too late. The longer we wait and kid ourselves..the longer it wil take to correct it and the more expensive it will be.

Big oil is not your enemy (surprise) the enemy is big govt and the Green lobby.

- brickboy240

[jdavionic]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Gas is also way under a dollar a gallon in many places in the Middle East like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, too. Its not just Venezuela.

I am glad to see some stumbling towards the light on this one and realizing that YES...your govt...both parties....and their actions and inactions for the past 30 years have given us the prices we have today.

I know...its a hard fact to swallow, when you have big media (who hate the oil companies and successful capitalists in general) blasting oil company profits alone (without talking about margins or how much the oil companies paid in taxes). Then you have Congress that brings forth the oil CEOs for a dog and pony bitch session becaue they themselves are either clueless as to what they have done (or not done) to cause the high prices...or...the scarier prediction...Congress has these sessions to decieve the public into thinking that it IS the big oil CEOs that are being plain greedy. Their attempt to cast blame in another direction...so you won't figure out that yes...its Congress' fault for the high prices.

Fact: there are NO sitting members in Congress that were successful workers in the energy industry. Energy policy in the USA for the last 30 years has been written by ex-lawyers, failed businessmen or marginally successful ones and/or those that have never worked in a private sector job at all. Some are lifelong urban dwellers that hate all large successful industries, period. How could you EVER expect a bunch like this to deliver an energy policy that was remotely sound? Both parties are to blame for this. Neither has a handle on sound energy policies that deals with the hear and now.

Going into this election, the two Democratic candidates plans will guarantee you 10 buck plus a gallon. At the best case scenario, McCain's energy policies might keep things as they are now. Wonderful place we have gotten to...isn't it? Well...these are your choices like it or not. And God knows we need to deal with what we have NOW...and stop dreaming and wishing for some miracle cure or altenative because its just not out there or even close to widespread useage.

Its also hard to face...but we need to do it..that taking the advice of the Green lobby has also gotten us the where we are right now. The Green lobby does not care if you and I pay 10 bucks a gallon for gas. They hate all big industry and want it all closed down and you and I walking or riding a bicycle everywhere we go. The Greens don't care how hampering big oil will make our economc situation even worse than it is right now. They don't care how many real jobs will be lost as oil compaines move out of the USA and set up shop somewhere else.

The Green lobby pretends to be caring and altruistic but the truth is they do not care if the US economy is ground to a halt or you lose your job...only about their selfish agenda. Many in the Green crusade stand to gain monetarily, from dashing carbon based fuels and going to solar panels or wind farms. They will have made their money and moved on long after we buy into these things and realize that they're not efficient enough. Again...they don't care whether or not it works long term or accomplishes a thing. Many of the green warriors are...surprise...in it only because they can make money from the conversion to alternative sources. Why do you think they're so insistent?

Wake up people...the red light on the dashboard has been on for several miles. Its time we do something before it truly is too late. The longer we wait and kid ourselves..the longer it wil take to correct it and the more expensive it will be.

Big oil is not your enemy (surprise) the enemy is big govt and the Green lobby.

- brickboy240

I once saw a political cartoon that blamed Bush for oil prices citing that he's done nothing. Next to him, there signs held saying...'no new refineries' 'no nuclear power plants' 'no drilling in Anwar' 'no drilling in the Gulf of Mexico'...

[Brickboy240]

Why not blame Bush for oil prices? They blamed Bush for Katrina and other things of which he really had no doing.

Bush is not really to blame for the high prices...he just happened to be in office when everything else (ethanol, no new refineries, low domestic production, continuing depenence on foreign oil, increasing demand from other nations) hit critical mass.

Bush's dad gets credit for ending communism only because he was in office when the Berlin Wall fell down, but really...it was GOING to happen someday and Bush Sr. was in office when it reached that tipping point. He was no crusader against communism nor can he take credit for the wall coming down. It just happened when he was in office.

Dubya was a total flop in the oil business. He was placed in a board position at a very small independent firm by his dad and his dad's connected buddies. He did little more than attend some board meetings and literally ran the company into the ground. Dubya only knows a tad more about the oil biz than does Hillary or Obama when you get down to it. He is simply in office when all the other circumstances reached critical mass.

People love to blame him for this and love to say that Bush is keeping prces high so htat he and his rich oil buddies make out like bandits, but its simply not true.

Don't get me wrong...I have MANY issues with Dubya and dislike him for many screw ups but to blame the high gas prices on Bush is anger misplaced. Could he have enaced legislation back in 2000 that could have stopped the price escalation? Probably, but there are so many players to blame for our current situation...Bush could not have stopped them altogether.

Until anger and blame is properly placed...we will never get around to solving this problem. Currently, the two Democratic candidates use high gas prices as a political football and will make the problems much worse. The Republican candidate is clueless as well and if we're lucky, he will only keep prices where they are.

Sadly, these are your choices until we sober up, stop listening to the greens and demand that some hard facts be faced regarding our energy future.

- brickboy240