Democrats fear divided party after nominee chosen

[jmichna]

Originally Posted by xds&chevys

OK got it, but do we really want an even harder left to take over next year?

They're already swimming in the Pacific Ocean... how much harder Left could they go?

[yeahYeah]

Originally Posted by xds&chevys

OK got it, but do we really want an even harder left to take over next year?

not at all. i cant stomach any of the 3. I'm waiting to see who McCain's VP will be.

[xds&chevys]

Originally Posted by jmichna

They're already swimming in the Pacific Ocean... how much harder Left could they go?

I don't know but I also don't want to find out. In the big scheme of things aren't we supposed to bring people together for the greater good? Bring the lefties just a bit more right and bring the righties just a little more left? Figure out a way to use comon sense (a mythical creature in politics these days), and reason to govern and make it better.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by xds&chevys

I don't know but I also don't want to find out. In the big scheme of things aren't we supposed to bring people together for the greater good? Bring the lefties just a bit more right and bring the righties just a little more left? Figure out a way to use comon sense (a mythical creature in politics these days), and reason to govern and make it better.

In a perfect World, absolutely. I would love to see it happen.

In the Gotcha politics of today this is unfortunately seen as a weakness and used as a divisive or wedge issue. It's all about 1) Getting into office and 2) Staying in office.

This trait is Bipartisan and is the only thing that seems to "Cross the aisle".

[Delija]

Originally Posted by yeahYeah

Indeed. i feel the politicians (esp. the democrats) are as destructive to this country as terrorists could be.

If the party melts down in Denver, they have themselves to blame.

Good riddens(SIC) to them.

LOL....more truly "American" sentiments from you.

You're dissatisfied with a corrupt two party system, so you think a one party system would be even better?????????????

Ever hear what's so often said about "absolute power"?

Know what a "rhetorical question" is? (Please don't answer...I think you've said more than enough already to satisfy ANYONE'S possible interest in your political views...or any other views....Sometimes you CAN judge a book by it's cover).

Peace,
D.

[yeahYeah]

So, in your eyes, being "American" would 1) drool at Obama's feet or stand with a man who does not share your views?

I wont do either.

Republicans in 2008 are the lesser of 2 evils.

Sorry if my views make you uncomfortable.

[Delija]

Originally Posted by yeahYeah

So, in your eyes, being "American" would 1) drool at Obama's feet or stand with a man who does not share your views?

I wont do either.

Republicans in 2008 are the lesser of 2 evils.

Sorry if my views make you uncomfortable.

Did I say one word about Obama?

Did I say one word about ANY candidate?

You think you know my views? LOL...I plan on voting for McCain at this point. But I don't want a one party system like you do. Not under ANY circumstances. If anything, I'd like MORE choices, not LESS.

It's THAT which I feel is "un-American". Has NOTHING to do with any candidate or any party.

I'm sure this is probably too complicated for you to understand.... Try and ignore me -- Let's make it mutual.

D.

[yeahYeah]

hey - dont forget - you started with me, not the other way around.

[Brickboy240]

What kills me about all this is the way the Democrats are running this election cycle.

Remember back in 2000, after the Florida debacle...the Democrat operatives were crowing on and on about how the election was stolen and how THEY will ensure a clean and fair election from now on? Remember the whole "Bush stole the election" garbage?

Flash foreward to today. They are not even going to count the votes of two pretty large states (FL...again....and MI) and the way the Democrats run their primary system, their super delegates could nullify many, many votes all on their own. They are the only party that has this odd super delegate system that I cannot see the "fairness" in to save my life.

Yet...like tax cuts for the rich...the montra has been that the Republicans steal elections and the Democrats run a fair campaign.

True, the Republicans are not squeaky clean and may have caused chaos in a few counties in FL in 2000, but the DNC neutralized the voted of every Democrat voter in two major states. Which is worse?

I don't see how they can ignore the votes of two key states and engage in the cronyism that is the super delegate system and consider their election process even remotely fair or above board. If the Republicans had such a super delegate system and RNC biggies like Newt Gingrich, Trent Lott, Karl Rove or Bush Sr. were super delegates, the DNC and big media would be crying foul until the cows come home. But the DNC engages in these shaky tactics and nobody says "boo." Where is the outrage from the "fairness" crowd on the left? They're pretty damn silent if you ask me.

Do the DNC biggies think that Obama could not win the nomination if they actually counted the FL and MI votes? Also, why did the DNC members in FL and MI go ahead with their primaries early, knowing that they were in violation of party rules?

If anything, this election cycle has shown the folly and disaster that is the DNC's primary process. It seem like this upside down process was the only way Obama was going to win the nomination...does it not?

- brickboy240

[Delija]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

What kills me about all this is the way the Democrats are running this election cycle.

BB...the rules of the DNC may not seem "fair"...so what? There's a set of rules and everyone knows them, so the playing field is pretty level.

I see no big issue if they agree to their own rules.

In the general election there's a third set of rules....again, many think they're unfair, but the country's survived them for a long time, and it works out.

In the World Series, they have a DH when they play in the American League parks and no DH in the National League parks...it works. If each team played by their own rules....then yeah, the American League would have a huge advantage (maybe they do anyway since they carry DH "specialists" all year). Same each year at the All Star Game...you get the point.

I'm old enough to remember JFK getting the nod at the 1960 convention. I'm not sure, but I believe the "super delegates" (or whatever they were called then) made the decision. In 1932 they definitely picked FDR....and the guy was elected four times. But he was NOT the primary choice of the "regular" delegates (or whatever THEY were called at the time).

Bottom line is it's all the same old same old....politics as usual. Nothing new. Each side is always gonna point fingers at the other. For all the good it does.



Peace,
D.