Who would REALLY make the best President?????

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by xds&chevys

I'm sorry, is this supposed to be a threat? note to self: doesn't play well with others.



Hmm...well I am not a lawyer but to me the patriot act seems to grant whole lot of power law enforcement under the guise of "terrorism" without having to have hardly any proof of a threat. Since you "utilize" the Patriot Act every day then I would have to assume that you yourself violate other citzens civil liberties by using surveillance without a court order, by search someones home or business without their knowledge or consent, gain access to an individuals financial information without a court order. But wait there's more, you can detain an "immigrant" (read citizen) until you decide to accept them as a citizen and release them.

If I remember correctly we are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of our peers, and our government is supposed to see that our rights are not infringed upon BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU. You should have to provide more evidence than "he used the word 'bomb' when he was talking to his alleged girlfriend on the phone".

So either you are happy with our current government system. Or you just can't really find enough wrong in my candidate to justify a good argument, and resort to threats.

I still haven't heard who you are voting for. Sounds like Obama to me.

Easy there Rambo. Not a threat, just stating be careful in that I am very versed in the Patriot Act and know what I'm talking about. Jeesh....

And I think this discussion is going approximately no where because you truly do not know anything to which we are discussing....

That is all......

[Frenchy]

Of course if your daily bread comes from the government, you tend to support it no matter what.
One does not bite the hand that feeds you.

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

Of course if your daily bread comes from the government, you tend to support it no matter what.
One does not bite the hand that feeds you.

Not necessarily true French. I have spoken against many things regarding the government, particulary the conduct of the war in Iraq, however, the Patriot Act is not attacking citizens rights like the liberals would like you to think...

[Frenchy]

You have your thoughts about this, and I have mine. The government has given me no reason to trust it.

[xds&chevys]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

Of course if your daily bread comes from the government, you tend to support it no matter what.
One does not bite the hand that feeds you.

+1000

[Liquid Rhino]

Who'd make the best president?
James Earl Jones. He's a total badass.

In Coming to America:


In Conan the Barbarian:

[Ishpeck]

Originally Posted by Liquid Rhino

Who'd make the best president?
James Earl Jones. He's a total badass.

In Coming to America:

His one character is wearing another of his characters:

Originally Posted by Frenchy

The government has given me no reason to trust it.

I can trust it to extort and cheat the entire population.

[xds&chevys]

[quote=justgotback;1089755]Easy there Rambo. Not a threat, just stating be careful in that I am very versed in the Patriot Act and know what I'm talking about. Jeesh....

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OK, but I believe that the Patriot Act is a dangerous weapon, written and wielded by many people of whom I don't trust to have MY very best interests at heart. But, to be fair I think it was written with the "best of intentions." Just like imminent domain. When it was written it was just for utilities and railroads because we had to have them, and now we just have to have another strip mall.

By all means, enlighten me about the Patriot Act. I'm intrigued, please explain how it protects my freedom as an American and can't possibly be misinterprated to encroach a citizens liberty or rights without just cause. It's not whether it does or doesn't, it's whether it can or can't. Because the US Constitution says it can't.

But really, you still have only dismissed my opinion on this thread, why is it that you can't offer your own?