McCain and Iraq: '100 Years' of Hurt

[yeahYeah]

obama and his wife are honest in what they say. no bones about it. The right does not have to do anything except repeat what they say. The left on the other hand has to do hack jobs to make an impact.

I do not like McCain, but he is a gentleman..... which could be his downfall running against a hard left fruitloop. The democrats have no decency or manners.

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by yeahYeah

obama and his wife are honest in what they say. no bones about it. The right does not have to do anything except repeat what they say. The left on the other hand has to do hack jobs to make an impact.

I do not like McCain, but he is a gentleman..... which could be his downfall running against a hard left fruitloop. The democrats have no decency or manners.

He has shown some less that gentlemanly attributes. Ask his wife.

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

He has shown some less that gentlemanly attributes. Ask his wife.

The current one, or the one who supported him while he was a POW ??
Ya know .. The one he ditched when she became ill, so he could marry some money.

[eric_t12]

"as long as troops aren't being harmed or shot at"...

well if they are being shot at, then leaving would equate to your and yeahyeah's arguments that leaving would be surrendering to the enemy.




so either way we'll be there for 100 years.

the idea stands...

ETA: and as for 'not worrying about the other places like korea, germany, etc...'

if you've ever read my posts you'd probably know that i'm against having them there too.

i think they're pretty 'stable' now, and can do without us. ...of course then terrorists might take over their countries too.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by jmichna

How come the "occupations" of Japan, Germany, the Philippines, etc., are not also an issue? We've had troops stationed in those locations since the 1940s... over sixty years. The Dems need to update their campaign literature.

I say bring them home from those places too.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by Judge

The difference to me it, you don't have to twist Michelle's and Obama's 'sound bites" 180 degrees from what they meant....

Admit it, McCain wants us in Iraq indefinitely whether we are sustaining casualties or not.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by AZXD

The current one, or the one who supported him while he was a POW ??
Ya know .. The one he ditched when she became ill, so he could marry some money.

What happened to McCain's first wife anyway? Is she still alive? Didn't McCain and Gingrich both leave their wives when they had cancer?

Also, since you live in Arizona, have you heard that McCain said to his wife in front of reporters that she put on makeup like a "trollop, you c*nt?"

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

What happened to McCain's first wife anyway? Is she still alive? Didn't McCain and Gingrich both leave their wives when they had cancer?

Also, since you live in Arizona, have you heard that McCain said to his wife in front of reporters that she put on makeup like a "trollop, you c*nt?"

How disappointing from you Etta. You sure are throwing out a lot of garbage without any concrete facts. I can't believe you would post something like that.....

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Admit it, McCain wants us in Iraq indefinitely whether we are sustaining casualties or not.

I'm glad you know more about McCain than McCain does...

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by justgotback

How disappointing from you Etta. You sure are throwing out a lot of garbage without any concrete facts. I can't believe you would post something like that.....

Just illustrating that the man loses his cool on a fairly regular basis.

Warning: Source is the liberally oriented Huffington Post.

New Book: McCain Once Physically Attacked Fellow Congressman
April 8, 2008 09:49 AM

About Sam Stein
Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.


Appearing on Fox News this past Sunday, Sen. John McCain attempted to turn his infamously combustible temper from an electoral liability into political strength.

"If I lose my capacity for anger, then I shouldn't be president of the United States," the Senator explained to host Chris Wallace. "When I see the waste and corruption in Washington, I get angry."

But how much of McCain's legendary anger streak does the public actually know? Judging from snippets of Cliff Schecter's new book "The Real McCain" - an advanced copy of which was obtained by the Huffington Post - the answer may be surprisingly little.

Take for instance the verbal-turned-physical attack McCain put on his fellow Arizona Republican, Rick Renzi, which Schecter uncovered through his research:

Perhaps the most remarkable story of McCain's temper involved Arizona Congressman Rick Renzi. Two former reporters covering McCain, one who witnessed the following events and one who confirmed the facts provided by the first, relayed it to me as follows: In 2006, the Arizona Republican congressional delegation had a strategy meeting. McCain repeatedly addressed two new members, congressmen Trent Franks and Rick Renzi, as 'boy.' Finally, Renzi, a former college linebacker, rose from his chair and said to McCain, "You call me that one more time and I'll kick your old ass." McCain lunged at Renzi, punches were thrown, and the two had to be physically separated. After they went to their separate offices, McCain called Renzi and demanded an apology. Renzi refused. Apparently this posture made McCain admire him, as they became fast friends.

The anecdote comes with the caveat that the sources -- in this instance, two reporters -- have insisted on anonymity and that no one reported on this story at the time when it occurred. Matt Yglesias touched on this issue in a blog post today.

That said, the episode fits into McCain's history of similarly explosive behavior. As Washingtonian magazine documented (and Schecter notes in the book), McCain once "scuffled" with the Senate's then oldest member, Strom Thurmond, during a Senate Armed Service Committee hearing in January 1995. Three years later, the Associated Press article reported that McCain dropped F-Bombs on at least three fellow Republicans.

"I'm calling you a f------ jerk!" he once retorted to Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley.

And in a opinion piece last year on Salon.com, Sidney Blumenthal, now an adviser to Sen. Hillary Clinton, wrote that McCain once told Sen. Ted Kennedy to "shut up" on the Senate Floor, referred to a fellow Republican as a "**** head" and offered a downright vicious and doubly-offensive joke in 1998 Republican fundraiser about then first daughter Chelsea Clinton.

"Do you know why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly?" he asked. "Because Janet Reno is her father."

On Monday, moreover, the website Raw Story obtained a separate anecdote from Schecter's book, in which McCain berated his wife in the full view of aides and reporters during a 1992 campaign stop.

Three reporters from Arizona, on the condition of anonymity, also let me in on another incident involving McCain's intemperateness. In his 1992 Senate bid, McCain was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, as well as campaign aide Doug Cole and consultant Wes Gullett. At one point, Cindy playfully twirled McCain's hair and said, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain's face reddened, and he responded, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." McCain's excuse was that it had been a long day. If elected president of the United States, McCain would have many long days.

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