Bush sings "José Can You See?" (part 1)

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by Son of Norway

Well thank your lucky stars that there are enough illegal aliens available to rebuild the city of Nuevo Orleanza. If the residents don't come back they will even repopulate it for them.

There will be no more gumbo. Pass me a tortilla.

PS happy cinco de whatever.

Your right about that.

[Don]

Political Forum is for discussion, not for being assholes. If you can't discuss without being as ass, stay the hell out of this forum.

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

This is the political forum. Your feelings are going to get hurt from time to time. Get use to it or stay the hell out of this forum.

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by Don

Political Forum is for discussion, not for being assholes. If you can't discuss without being as ass, stay the hell out of this forum.

Excuse me but there's almost no difference between the two words anymore. Why do you think the political forum has been banned here at least a couple of times already? Do you really think you can control it? It was banned here because it cannot be controlled just like we can't control our government anymore. Don when you get a rope around the devils neck and can make him sing and dance to your tune let us know. We'll all be very interested in knowing how you did it.

[Delija]

Originally Posted by FrankRizzoXD40

More personal jabs, condescending behavior, and disrespect...nothing new here considering the source.

How DARE RTL express an opinion that is different than yours.

Thanks again, mien parole officer Herr Rizzo! I wouldn't know how to behave without your constant vigilance.


But before I get too carried away, while I've asked before, I'll ask again (since, like always, you never ANSWER questions...just DEMAND answers of others)........where are your credentials for being the XDTalk Gestapo?

RTL tells us that anyone stupid enough to live someplace (not necessarily of their choosing) "deserves what they get". I point out that he doesn't even take into consideration that babies.....babies that YOU YOURSELF consider sacred from the moment of conception.....have NO SAY in where they are born or to whom. Born in the wrong place? Tough! Die in a flood? Tough! Live in poverty? Tough!

You are afraid that maybe I hurt RTL's feelings? LOL....Unlike you, I give RTL the benefit of the doubt and figure no matter what else he may think (or not think), he's at least able to live with the fact this is an anonymous Internet chat site. Nothing here should be taken PERSONALLY, despite what YOU think.....(and take it for what it's worth....there are few if any adults here..or likely anywhere..... that give a crap what you think).

And for the record.....where did I imply that RTL did not have the "right to express his opinion"? And where does it say that I cannot, in turn, give my take on his opinion?

You could learn more from reading OEFM's posts that would benefit your life than you have seemingly learned in sum total in your life. Starting with the fact this is a world that consists of all kinds of people. The (thankfully rare) FrankRizzos are just one of a ton of different types. Fortunately, in America, they are heavily outnumbered by those that DON'T choose censorship first. Grow up. Accept that you are not the center of your imaginary universe (yes...all newborns and todlers believe they are...I've mentioned this to you before....it's one of the basic beliefs that separates infancy from maturity).

If you cannot tolerate what you dislike....you should either ignore it, or leave. You can't just stick around and get between any two people who disagree virtually EVERY TIME!!!!

IT'S NOT YOU PLACE, IT'S NOT YOUR JOB, IT'S NOT MATURE!

You ever once stop to consider your own behavior? You ever once take into consideration the inconsistencies between what you preach and what you practice?

No? Didn't figure you would.

BTW....how's your prosecution going on the Etta plagiarism case? The siren reminded me.....any progress? Got her locked up yet?

Frank, don't take this personally....(LOL....I might as well tell the tides to cease and the earth to stop rotating on it's axis)....but why don't you stick your police light, your non-stop cut and pastes from the "code of conduct", the badge and shield you think you have but don't...and stick them where the sun don't shine?




You are no more and no less authorized or even interesting enough for anyone to care to read your "enforcement" posts.

Want to be a cop? Go do it. Plenty of job opportunities...but here? Why not ask Kermee for a badge? Then you can close all the threads you wish you could (and from what you say, that would appear to be a huge percentage). You can over-exert your "authority" just like some "real life" law enforcement types do.....the ones that brought the term "abuse of power" into our lexicon. Those who bring shame to a respectable profession.

Meanwhile.......it ain't your job.

D.

[Ride the Lightning]

I am willing to concede that children have no choice. They are subject to their parents' stupidity as are the children who live anywhere. There are very few places that you could live without there being some sort of natural risk. Fortunately, most places it is a matter of if something happens. If you're below the water line of an endless supply it is a matter of when. Everybody in NO is free to move if they want to. They choose not to and now they want the rest of us to pay for their foolishness. Same for those people that build a house that dangles off of a mountain side. If you knowingly and willingly live in a place that WILL flood, tumble down the hill, or whatever else, you deserve what comes to you. There is a reason insurance companies either kill you with high premiums or outright refuse to insure you when you live in those environments: they know it's a losing proposition.

Thanks to those who defend my opinion and my feelings, but there's no need. I am aware that many of my opinions are not popular, and those that are would not be expressed publicly by many people. There will always be those who refuse to accept the truth, and Delija is one of them with regard to this matter.

I think people who are thoughtless buffoons like Delija are what is wrong with this country. Contrary to current popular belief, the government doesn't owe anybody much of anything beyond protection. They certainly shouldn't be expected to pay for the stupidity of a few with the money of the many.

[Brickboy240]

Wow...this got out of control in a hurry...did it not? Whew!

What I meant was Bush got the blame for Katrina but the local officials seemed to have gotten a pass from the media. Both should shoulder the blame if you ask me. Bush...mainly for his piss poor response time, but Blanco and Nagin for not having any plans in place for evacuations and other preventative plans. Its not like they had only an hour to get outta town...right? That photo of the huge parking lot full of flooded empty school busses really said it all. No plans were ever made by officials to get peopel out in the case of an emergency.

Yes, I beleive that money is better spent rebuilding New Orleans than Iraq or Afghanistan. New Orleans, for all its warts, is part of OUR country. Like it or not, it is also a vital port and a city of historical significance that is worth saving and making damn sure this type of disaster never happens again. If the Dutch can build protective levees that hold for hundreds of years, surely we can do the same...right?

The press and the left took this incident as an opportunity to (guess what) push their agenda. They even blamed the hurricaine on global warming and Bush's not signing the Kyoto Protocol as a fault for the disaster. Give me a break!

This disaster, if anything, is a shining example of why we should NOT rely on govt. for our existance. It also shows us that local officials that hold office in areas of the country that are prone to disasters like this, have a moral obligation to ensure that they have plans in place for handling situations like this. An evacuation plan, supplies on hand, help from state and federal agencies at the ready. Decades of curruption, self interest and officials courting wealthy hotel chains, casino developers and other non-essential interests are to blame for Katrina. It goes way beyond a right left issue...its a right and wrong issue, if you ask me.

- Brickboy240

[Delija]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Wow...this got out of control in a hurry...did it not? Whew!


It goes way beyond a right left issue...its a right and wrong issue, if you ask me.

- Brickboy240

Excellent post BB....some very good points. And while we have always sort of been split on many of our opinions, while sharing others it seems to me that here we are essentially on the same page. N.O. is part of America, America should come first to Americans, and with no disrespect meant for others, it just isn't that easy (or in some cases even possible) to just pick up and move from the place you have been born and raised.

As for this thread going off topic....I'm amazed that it seems no one even commented on the original premise.....the purpose of the Bush meeting in N.O. - the "NAFTA on STEROIDS" stuff. Guess no one cares.

Or maybe I just have a knack of taking things off topic. Why? Some people here have expressed how they "hate" (fill in the blank.....lot's of "liberal" haters...still wish I could get a definition of a "liberal"....lot's of Obama and Clinton haters, Glock haters, government haters, tax haters, etc..)

ME? I hate boring threads!!!! If throwing a little fuel on the fire makes it more interesting...what's the harm? Call me names, insult me, do anything....just PLEASE...don't bore me!!!!

Originally Posted by Ride the Lightning

I think people who are thoughtless buffoons like Delija are what is wrong with this country. be expected to pay for the stupidity of a few with the money of the many.

Uh-oh....RTL, it's cool with me that you think and say that I am a "thoughtless buffoon"....gotta love free speech, etc.

But be warned. Rizzo is probably in his virtual patrol car hiding behind a virtual road-sign and ready to virtually arrest you for "insulting" me in a virtual chatroom.

But....If he nabs you, rest assured I'll be at the virtual arraignment to make sure no one presses charges on my virtual behalf. (Not that I am aware of more than one self-appointed virtual law enforcement agent who is also a virtual prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner...but you never know! LOL).

Peace,
D.

[AZXD]

Hmmm,
This started as a story about secret meetings and accusations that three forms of secret governments might have a common objective.

But I guess it's more entertaining to read the continuing drama of whatever the hell the soap-opera is about.

I guess the plan is working. Keep them jabbering about stupid $hit .... Create diversionary BS to throw others off track ..... Arrange for political discourse ..... Meld North America into a super nation of like minded laws, and total disregard for the people who now serve us .... Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. It's F'n funny when everyday people start using the political playbook to run their lives.

So just what is it that causes you to go into these implied and outright accusations of stupidity and rehashing of utter nonsense. Don't play stupid, you know if you fit the position. If you don't ... Ignore the stupidity of another rerun.

Bringing up the past, only works if you add something new to the conversation ....... Could we please start the next scene

[Delija]

Originally Posted by AZXD

Hmmm,
This started as a story about secret meetings and accusations that three forms of secret governments might have a common objective.

Could we please start the next scene

Thanks AZ....I was hoping SOMEONE would at least comment on the topic. As I said, I'm in the dark about what all this really means. It was my hope that some of our more politically informed here would offer some opinions, explanations, perspectives, etc.....

I'm still in the dark, but at least you made the effort to steer this towards some worthwhile discussion. I hope it doesn't end here.

As for being part of the problem, I plead guilty...hard to ignore it when you are constantly stalked...but I'll make more of an effort (again!)

Peace,
D.

[AZXD]

The basis of this thread centers on a theory that some will call conspiracy, others will dismiss as stupid, and still others will ridicule others over mentioning. Yet within all of this, we have another group who is open minded enough to view things rationally and see things for what they are. If the theory becomes reality, it is reality, if it does not come to fruition as some would like then the label of something still fits. So to me the bottom line centers on ones ability to trust and believe the elected leaders of these countries, or question the motives that are the center of the secretive meetings.

So ask youself one simple question ... If the meetings are broad spectrum and generic in nature with no hidden agenda and motive .... Why all the secrecy ???