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[jkswiss]

Compared to even a few years ago, this place has more tin foil hat wearing, paranoid, EOTWAWKI, ethnocentric folks than ever before. Considering there are well over a billion Muslims in this world, theres bound to be some bad stuff going on. Christianities history isn't all that squeaky clean either, do not forget the Salem witch trials, the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades..How about when the Christian Serbs killed over two hundred thousand Muslims?? Do you conveniently forget acts such as those?
I'm not a big fan of organized religion, Christian or otherwise. I think that the world would get along fine(even better) without all these different religions clashing. However, with such a large number of practitioners in the different religions, with different creeds, conflict is bound to exist.

[AwPhuch]

The Crusades were a defensive reaction...

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Crusades

Looks like we are working our way into another round of the Crusades...courtesy of your islamic fanatics.

[jkswiss]

How about a little less bias source..which that obviously is, coming from the Catholic encyclopedia and all, the same Catholic church who absolved people of all sins so long as they fought in the Crusades.

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by jkswiss

Compared to even a few years ago, this place has more tin foil hat wearing, paranoid, EOTWAWKI, ethnocentric folks than ever before. Considering there are well over a billion Muslims in this world, theres bound to be some bad stuff going on. Christianities history isn't all that squeaky clean either, do not forget the Salem witch trials, the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades..How about when the Christian Serbs killed over two hundred thousand Muslims?? Do you conveniently forget acts such as those?
I'm not a big fan of organized religion, Christian or otherwise. I think that the world would get along fine(even better) without all these different religions clashing. However, with such a large number of practitioners in the different religions, with different creeds, conflict is bound to exist.

Like flying planes into buildings killing thousands of innocent Americans? I'm not talking about thousands of years ago either. I am talking about what is happening now, today. You shouldn't trivialize or marginalize the killing of innocent Americans as just some "bad stuff".

[jkswiss]

Ok, when did the Serbs(Christians) kill Muslims?? I believe it was in the early nineties. Remember the whole genocide thing?? Yep, those where the Christians killing Muslims. If you believe that a life is a life, than the 200k killed then is more atrocious that the <3000 killed during the WTC. However, American lives are much more important, no? Plus, since it wasn't American Christians who killed the Muslims, it also doesn't count. Right? If thats the case, then you should only be blaming Saudi Muslims because thats where Bin Laden is from, not Afghanistan and certainly not Iraq.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by jkswiss

Ok, when did the Serbs(Christians) kill Muslims?? I believe it was in the early nineties. Remember the whole genocide thing?? Yep, those where the Christians killing Muslims. If you believe that a life is a life, than the 200k killed then is more atrocious that the <3000 killed during the WTC. However, American lives are much more important, no? Plus, since it wasn't American Christians who killed the Muslims, it also doesn't count. Right? If thats the case, then you should only be blaming Saudi Muslims because thats where Bin Laden is from, not Afghanistan and certainly not Iraq.

Right, and all those innocent Iraqis that have died since the U.S. invaded their country are not NEARLY as important as American lives.

[jtkratzer]

Well, to back this up, pick up a copy of Andrew McCarthy's book, "Willful Blindness"


McCarthy was the federal prosecutor who worked the first WTC bombing case/trial.

The book is about America's "Willful Blindness" and apathy towards radical, terroristic Islam. One side views it and acts as if they're in a war, the other side is trying to ignore it.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by jtkratzer

Well, to back this up, pick up a copy of Andrew McCarthy's book, "Willful Blindness"


McCarthy was the federal prosecutor who worked the first WTC bombing case/trial.

The book is about America's "Willful Blindness" and apathy towards radical, terroristic Islam. One side views it and acts as if they're in a war, the other side is trying to ignore it.

And, what is the U.S. supposed to do about radical Islamic terrorists? What do you suggest?

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by justgotback

Etta, we were not in Iraq or Afghanistan when 9-11 took place. They hate who we are, not what we're doing regarding foreign policy.

Afghanistan and Iraq are not the first U.S. incursions in the Middle East. The U.S. has been involved since the British left after WWII. If we had foreigners trying to control our resources, I think there would be a lot of very pi**ed off people.

The Chinese are having a terrible problem with water pollution. A large percentage of the people over there lack clean water to drink. Let's say Chinese government officials came over and started making deals with crooked politicians in this country to open up the Great Lakes and other major water sources in this country to private Chinese water companies.

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Afghanistan and Iraq are not the first U.S. incursions in the Middle East. The U.S. has been involved since the British left after WWII. If we had foreigners trying to control our resources, I think there would be a lot of very pi**ed off people.

The Chinese are having a terrible problem with water pollution. A large percentage of the people over there lack clean water to drink. Let's say Chinese government officials came over and started making deals with crooked politicians in this country to open up the Great Lakes and other major water sources in this country to private Chinese water companies.

Are you trying to justify the actions of radical muslims Etta?