Epiphony

[FLSTFI Dave]

Originally Posted by jmichna

ETA: As Judge has indicated, the most lasting (and potentially dangerous) impact a president has, it who they appoint to the Supreme Court. I have no idea who a President McCain might appoint, but I have a great deal of fear that a President H. Clinton or a President Obama would appoint activist, "living Constitution" judges, which are NOT what I believe is in the best interest of this country. The Justices' sole duty is to interpret the Law, not to make the Law... that is the job of the Legislature.

Exactly....and I am 1000% against a "Living Constitution"

[Krackels]

Originally Posted by FLSTFI Dave

But Becuase a Message needs to be sent to the parties, keep putting up crappy canidates, and we will not vote for them....

Probably one of the best ways to assure that we won't keep on getting crappy candidates is for a singular Primary election day.

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

AZXD, after I listed 5 things that Ron Paul stands for, you wrote:

To which I replied by citing exactly where Ron Paul has supported those things. You then said:

I really am confused by your direction here. We can agree to disagree on his platform, or duke it out on the interwebs, but here's the bottom line: you called me a liar, and I showed you the proof for my statements. Whether that's "using his words against him" or not, you were dead wrong in saying that my "accusations" lacked proof. Be honest about what your candidate believes or get off the soap box.

If you agree with him then that's your business. I think it's insane to cut and run from Iraq but you're entitled to your own opinion. But don't throw out the "do a little reading line" when you're the one who doesn't even know what the man stands for. I recite the guy's platform, and you say I'm making an "unfounded accusation"? WTF?

Welcome to the political section

The amazement centers on you being one of the first to list his positions and not add hyped opinion into the equation. If you want to disagree on his position I can live with that as easily as going into great length over what will most likely result in an agreement to disagree, but the accusation of calling you a liar, was not intended and I am sorry if you interpreted my words to be an accusation.

As for Iraq,
I do not believe I said anything more than, the topic deserves it's own thread, and I can assure you that I do not support a cut and run. I freely admit that I am beyond being frustrated over how things on the political front have dealt with Iraq. So, perhaps on this item, you read as much into things as I did when you posted this candidates position on the items you feel are important.

Personally, I'd have no problem pulling the troops back to the edges and giving them a show of tremendous proportions, if the Iraqi government can't get it together.

So the choice is now yours, continue or not. I'm game for whatever!!
If you want to continue, how about ignoring who said what and focusing on the NAFTA highway and SPP, what is good about the UN, and what is good about the IRS and Federal Reserve.

I take responsibility for not prefacing my comments by letting you know that I do not support all of his positions. Does that make you feel better ??

[longtalltechsan]

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

1. He things the government is building a gigantic superhighway between Canada and Mexico

Actually this is something in the works, or was at one point. My first job out of college I worked for the City of Lubbock, TX Parks & Recreation department. One of my tasks in my 2 years there was helping to identify properties for purchase and graphics supporting a project for a highway that ran from Mexico to Canada. At the time it was called Ports to Plains corridor. Other cities that it ran through were San Angelo, TX and Amarillo, TX. I don't know anything about it now or what stage, if any, it is in, but it is, or at least once was, a real project.

[Carnivorous]

Originally Posted by AZXD

Welcome to the political section

The amazement centers on you being one of the first to list his positions and not add hyped opinion into the equation. If you want to disagree on his position I can live with that as easily as going into great length over what will most likely result in an agreement to disagree, but the accusation of calling you a liar, was not intended and I am sorry if you interpreted my words to be an accusation.

No sarcasm intended, thank you for the welcome! I guess I'm used to seeing flaming incompetents on forums, so I apologize for taking your words the wrong way.

Originally Posted by AZXD

Personally, I'd have no problem pulling the troops back to the edges and giving them a show of tremendous proportions, if the Iraqi government can't get it together.

I always thought that if you were going to surge, you should surge correctly. Whatever happened to overwhelming force?

But definitely do something differently. Especially now that Malaki's government ended up with a $7 billion surplus.

Originally Posted by AZXD

So the choice is now yours, continue or not. I'm game for whatever!!
If you want to continue, how about ignoring who said what and focusing on the NAFTA highway and SPP, what is good about the UN, and what is good about the IRS and Federal Reserve.

Let's talk about the SPP. The UN, I don't really care about (it's just us!) and the Fed is a toss-up: some years it's good, some it's bad. I have to say though, as reviled as it is, the people at the IRS are the absolute best people to deal with. Their customer service is better than any other govenment agency hands-down, and better than many companies (especially these days). Sure, you can disagree with them, but they'll bend over backwards to get you into a payment plan when you run into trouble.

Now, for the topic: For starters, I have never been convinced that such a thing as the NAFTA superhighway exists. I've worked in public sectors before, and the community opposition to eminent domain is amazingly strong. Even groups (like school boards!) with legitimate needs to use eminent domain are gun-shy about using it. The concept that it is politically feasible to take millions of acres from people across a dozen states goes against all possibility.

I think this article says it quite well:

The NAFTA Superhighway

If you have counter-evidence, I'd love to discuss this further.

Originally Posted by AZXD

I take responsibility for not prefacing my comments by letting you know that I do not support all of his positions. Does that make you feel better ??

Yes.

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Carnivorous

No sarcasm intended, thank you for the welcome! I guess I'm used to seeing flaming incompetents on forums, so I apologize for taking your words the wrong way.

I always thought that if you were going to surge, you should surge correctly. Whatever happened to overwhelming force?

But definitely do something differently. Especially now that Malaki's government ended up with a $7 billion surplus.

Let's talk about the SPP. The UN, I don't really care about (it's just us!) and the Fed is a toss-up: some years it's good, some it's bad. I have to say though, as reviled as it is, the people at the IRS are the absolute best people to deal with. Their customer service is better than any other govenment agency hands-down, and better than many companies (especially these days). Sure, you can disagree with them, but they'll bend over backwards to get you into a payment plan when you run into trouble.

Now, for the topic: For starters, I have never been convinced that such a thing as the NAFTA superhighway exists. I've worked in public sectors before, and the community opposition to eminent domain is amazingly strong. Even groups (like school boards!) with legitimate needs to use eminent domain are gun-shy about using it. The concept that it is politically feasible to take millions of acres from people across a dozen states goes against all possibility.

I think this article says it quite well:

The NAFTA Superhighway

If you have counter-evidence, I'd love to discuss this further.

Yes.

Hey that's cool!! You really need to get some kind of bada$$ avatar with a name like that .... Maybe swipe something from a tattoo site.

The overwhelming force ... Dude I ain't got no clue. The whole thing started political and will end political. I guess thats life.
If they had listened to the Generals on day 1 .... Everthing would be different. If they had listened to the Generals on day 3 ..... The surge would have occurred and all this $hit would be over IMO.
I've posted my theory of what should have happened a few times, but why judge the past, it is what it is and that does not change today.

The SPP ... It's been a while since I've talked about it and honestly, I'd be looking at the link I posted this morning. But to put it in real simple terms and summarize my view ... I believe there is a potential for portions of what is titled the SPP to be valid. However I also think the SPP is like NAFTA and all the other International agreements this country enters into, and I really see no reason for the U.S. to enter into agreements that bind U.S. companies and people to things that might someday be viewed as a disadvantage.

Additional:
I know that China has spent/loaned money for the expansion of a Mexico port.
I also know that the KCPorts deal is valid, and think these link quite well with the highway mentioned above.
Got any questions/comments/concerns.

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[jmichna]

Originally Posted by Krackels

Probably one of the best ways to assure that we won't keep on getting crappy candidates is for a singular Primary election day.

That is a very good idea... a single day for both parties to hold all their primaries. Besides reducing the penchant for getting the most despicable, desperate, ruthless candidate (and I mean that in the nicest possible way) from each party, you'd also reduce the incessant aggravation from primary election campaigning, and reduce the cost of campaigning.

+1000

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by jmichna

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krackels
Probably one of the best ways to assure that we won't keep on getting crappy candidates is for a singular Primary election day.

That is a very good idea... a single day for both parties to hold all their primaries. Besides reducing the penchant for getting the most despicable, desperate, ruthless candidate (and I mean that in the nicest possible way) from each party, you'd also reduce the incessant aggravation from primary election campaigning, and reduce the cost of campaigning.

+1000

Heck, I'll just quote ya both to save time.
I agree and would only add ...
Get rid of the two party farce. They are all one party!
If they prove they can handle choosing sides without all the finger pointing/he said she said/back and forth BS .... Then the people might decide to vote the re-establishment of a two party system.

I mean really .. The two party system right now ... Is nothing but a diversionary tactic and an attempt to keep the public blind to the inner workings of government. Thats why they squabble all the time and blame each other. It's also why they never get anything done.

Like I've always said ... Politics, the best welfare system ever devised ..... They really need to be reminded ... Just who is supposed to be in charge of this country!
We elect them to represent US

AZXD,
steps of soapbox

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

You finally said something sensible, HURRAY.

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by AZXD

Heck, I'll just quote ya both to save time.
I agree and would only add ...
Get rid of the two party farce. They are all one party!
If they prove they can handle choosing sides without all the finger pointing/he said she said/back and forth BS .... Then the people might decide to vote the re-establishment of a two party system.

I mean really .. The two party system right now ... Is nothing but a diversionary tactic and an attempt to keep the public blind to the inner workings of government. Thats why they squabble all the time and blame each other. It's also why they never get anything done.

Like I've always said ... Politics, the best welfare system ever devised ..... They really need to be reminded ... Just who is supposed to be in charge of this country!
We elect them to represent US

AZXD,
steps off soapbox

NO! DON"T! Everybody will find out your short.