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bigpov · 04-29-2008, 02:14 PM

I think if Obama really felt the way he's claiming to about Rev. Wright this distancing is about 19 years and 364 days too late. I think that Obama holds a lot of the same ideas about America, but he knows how to hold back his anger and not blow up like Wright.

Obama Distances Himself From Ex-Pastor

By MIKE GLOVER,
AP
Posted: 2008-04-29 15:53:34
Filed Under: Elections News
WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. (April 29) - Democrat Barack Obama said Tuesday he was outraged and appalled by the latest comments from his former pastor, who asserted that criticism of his fiery sermons is an attack on the black church and the U.S. government was responsible for the creation of the AIDS virus.

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Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Tuesday he was "outraged" by the recent comments made by his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. During a public appearance in Washington on Monday, Wright recently said his critics were attacking the black church and that the U.S. government created the AIDS virus.

The presidential candidate is seeking to tamp down the growing fury over Rev. Jeremiah Wright and his incendiary remarks that threaten to undermine his campaign.

"I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle that we saw yesterday," Obama told reporters at a news conference.

After weeks of staying out of the public eye while critics lambasted his sermons, Wright made three public appearances in four days to defend himself. The former pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago has been combative, providing colorful commentary and feeding the story Obama had hoped was dying down.

"This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright," Wright told the Washington media Monday. "It has nothing to do with Senator Obama. It is an attack on the black church launched by people who know nothing about the African-American religious tradition."

Obama told reporters Tuesday that Wright's comments do not accurately portray the perspective of the black church.

"The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago," Obama said of the man who married him.

Wright criticized the U.S. government as imperialist and stood by his suggestion that the United States invented the HIV virus as a means of genocide against minorities. "Based on this Tuskegee experiment and based on what has happened to Africans in this country, I believe our government is capable of doing anything," he said.

Obama said he heard that Wright had given "a performance" and when he watched tapes, he realized that it more than just a case of the former pastor defending himself.

"What became clear to me was that he was presenting a world view that contradicts what I am and what I stand for," Obama said.

In a highly publicized speech last month, Obama sharply condemned Wright's remarks. But he did not leave the church or repudiate the minister himself, who he said was like a family member.

On Tuesday, Obama sought to distance himself further from Wright.

"I gave him the benefit of the doubt in my speech in Philadelphia explaining that he's done enormous good. ... But when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS. ... There are no excuses. They offended me. They rightly offend all Americans and they should be denounced."

Wright recently retired from the church. He became an issue in Obama's presidential bid when videos circulated of Wright condemning the U.S. government for allegedly racist and genocidal acts. In the videos, some several years old, Wright called on God to "damn America." He also said the government created the AIDS virus to destroy "people of color."

Obama said he didn't vet his pastor before deciding to seek the presidency. He said he was particularly distressed that the furor has been a distraction to the purpose of a campaign.

trik396 · 04-29-2008, 02:46 PM

I'm outraged every time I hear Obama speak... that goes the same for Hillary, Bloomberg, Blagojevich, Daley, Feinstien, Schumer, etc....

afmo · 04-29-2008, 03:01 PM

only reason he's doing it is because its advantageous for his campaign to do so.

bountyhunter · 04-29-2008, 04:15 PM

A cynical man might think the pastor intentionally let fly some very public racist statements to set a stage where Obama can publicly reject them...... and "set the record straight".

bountyhunter · 04-29-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by trik396

I'm outraged every time I hear Obama speak... that goes the same for Hillary, Bloomberg, Blagojevich, Daley, Feinstien, Schumer, etc....

Yep, that's why the remote has that "mute" button.

trik396 · 04-29-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bountyhunter

A cynical man might think the pastor intentionally let fly some very public racist statements to set a stage where Obama can publicly reject them...... and "set the record straight".

Very good point.... wouldn't surprise me one bit.

Etta Place · 04-29-2008, 10:33 PM

What could he do? The issue wasn't going away. It was a major distraction from other issues, and it was hurting him.

KEVWYO · 04-29-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by trik396

I'm outraged every time I hear Obama speak... that goes the same for Hillary, Bloomberg, Blagojevich, Daley, Feinstien, Schumer, etc....

Do you have any outrage for the current administration and it's supporters in regards to any one of several pressing issues facing our country .... or are Dems the only one's that deserve outrage as you allude to in your examples above?

trik396 · 04-29-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KEVWYO

Do you have any outrage for the current administration and it's supporters in regards to any one of several pressing issues facing our country .... or are Dems the only one's that deserve outrage as you allude to in your examples above?

Absolutely. I think the PATRIOT act is a tyranical piece of crap. The names I mentioned are because of their anti-gun rants... Isn't this a pro-gun website???
Bush hasn't really hurt our 2nd amendment but he has stated he'd sign an assault weapons ban if it were in front of him, so he doesn't garner my praise on the subject. In the same manner, I'm glad he has been in office instead of Gore who would have been a nightmare, imo.
Etta... so you're saying you applaud his lies?

KEVWYO · 04-30-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by trik396

Absolutely. I think the PATRIOT act is a tyranical piece of crap. The names I mentioned are because of their anti-gun rants... Isn't this a pro-gun website???
Bush hasn't really hurt our 2nd amendment but he has stated he'd sign an assault weapons ban if it were in front of him, so he doesn't garner my praise on the subject. In the same manner, I'm glad he has been in office instead of Gore who would have been a nightmare, imo.
Etta... so you're saying you applaud his lies?

OK ... just didn't realize this was about the 2A specifically. Your points are well taken in this regard.

04-29-2008, 02:14 PM	#1
bigpov XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tremonton, Utah Posts: 251	Imagine that, Obama's distancing himself.... I think if Obama really felt the way he's claiming to about Rev. Wright this distancing is about 19 years and 364 days too late. I think that Obama holds a lot of the same ideas about America, but he knows how to hold back his anger and not blow up like Wright. Obama Distances Himself From Ex-Pastor By MIKE GLOVER, AP Posted: 2008-04-29 15:53:34 Filed Under: Elections News WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. (April 29) - Democrat Barack Obama said Tuesday he was outraged and appalled by the latest comments from his former pastor, who asserted that criticism of his fiery sermons is an attack on the black church and the U.S. government was responsible for the creation of the AIDS virus. Comments Spark Denunciation 1 of 7 Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Tuesday he was "outraged" by the recent comments made by his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. During a public appearance in Washington on Monday, Wright recently said his critics were attacking the black church and that the U.S. government created the AIDS virus. The presidential candidate is seeking to tamp down the growing fury over Rev. Jeremiah Wright and his incendiary remarks that threaten to undermine his campaign. "I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle that we saw yesterday," Obama told reporters at a news conference. After weeks of staying out of the public eye while critics lambasted his sermons, Wright made three public appearances in four days to defend himself. The former pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago has been combative, providing colorful commentary and feeding the story Obama had hoped was dying down. "This is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright," Wright told the Washington media Monday. "It has nothing to do with Senator Obama. It is an attack on the black church launched by people who know nothing about the African-American religious tradition." Obama told reporters Tuesday that Wright's comments do not accurately portray the perspective of the black church. "The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago," Obama said of the man who married him. Wright criticized the U.S. government as imperialist and stood by his suggestion that the United States invented the HIV virus as a means of genocide against minorities. "Based on this Tuskegee experiment and based on what has happened to Africans in this country, I believe our government is capable of doing anything," he said. Obama said he heard that Wright had given "a performance" and when he watched tapes, he realized that it more than just a case of the former pastor defending himself. "What became clear to me was that he was presenting a world view that contradicts what I am and what I stand for," Obama said. In a highly publicized speech last month, Obama sharply condemned Wright's remarks. But he did not leave the church or repudiate the minister himself, who he said was like a family member. On Tuesday, Obama sought to distance himself further from Wright. "I gave him the benefit of the doubt in my speech in Philadelphia explaining that he's done enormous good. ... But when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS. ... There are no excuses. They offended me. They rightly offend all Americans and they should be denounced." Wright recently retired from the church. He became an issue in Obama's presidential bid when videos circulated of Wright condemning the U.S. government for allegedly racist and genocidal acts. In the videos, some several years old, Wright called on God to "damn America." He also said the government created the AIDS virus to destroy "people of color." Obama said he didn't vet his pastor before deciding to seek the presidency. He said he was particularly distressed that the furor has been a distraction to the purpose of a campaign.

04-29-2008, 02:46 PM	#2
trik396 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: currently elsewhere Posts: 1,762	I'm outraged every time I hear Obama speak... that goes the same for Hillary, Bloomberg, Blagojevich, Daley, Feinstien, Schumer, etc.... __________________ ‘‘When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans ...... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it.’’ — Bill Clinton, 3-22-94

04-29-2008, 03:01 PM	#3
afmo XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 3,607	only reason he's doing it is because its advantageous for his campaign to do so. __________________ I survived 8 years of vitriolic hate directed towards George W. Bush. The shoe is on the other foot now: Barack Obama is NOT MY PRESIDENT. Ruger 22/45 MKIII Springfield XD-9 Service Stevens Model 67 Series E 12g 1948 M44 Mosin-Nagant

04-29-2008, 10:33 PM	#7
Etta Place XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,563	What could he do? The issue wasn't going away. It was a major distraction from other issues, and it was hurting him. __________________ "No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." (– James Madison)

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04-29-2008, 04:15 PM	#4
bountyhunter XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Nazifornia Posts: 1,651	A cynical man might think the pastor intentionally let fly some very public racist statements to set a stage where Obama can publicly reject them...... and "set the record straight".