"The unteachable ignorance of the red states"

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

By the way, Jane Smiley is a Pulitzer-prize winning novelist.

I already pointed that out in the opening post of this thread.

It doesn't mean anything.

Composition and writing credits do not transfer to the political science department.

Frank

[JeffXD]

"The history of the last four years shows that red state types, above all, do not want to be told what to do—they prefer to be ignorant."

Uhhhhh, why is not wanting to be told what to do and how to do it by the government being ignorant? I don't need politicians telling me how to live and what to believe. I guess people wouldn't have taken a stand against the British Government had they believed this sort of nonsense.

[XD 9 Loaded Sub-Compact]

Originally Posted by JeffXD

"The history of the last four years shows that red state types, above all, do not want to be told what to do—they prefer to be ignorant."

Uhhhhh, why is not wanting to be told what to do and how to do it by the government being ignorant? I don't need politicians telling me how to live and what to believe. I guess people wouldn't have taken a stand against the British Government had they believed this sort of nonsense.

And think about that, if we were still under britian rule we would all be speaking english as it's thier national language.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Originally Posted by FrankRizzoXD40

Bingo again.

That is why it would be dangerous for the far-left to gain any more control over the democrat party....which is why it would be disastrous for our country to elect Obama.

Think about it...the far left doesn't even like Hillary.

Etta, the similarities between Jane Smiley and Obama is that they both talk down about rural America. They both feel that people cling to things out of frustration and to explain their bitterness. The mentality is the same, but Obama's rhetoric is not as offensive.

I dug this up mostly to draw a parrallel and to show that this mentality and hatred still exists on the far-left and it was used last time as an excuse as to why Kerry lost the election.

Frank

Exactly, and Obamas comment was very offensive to many Democrats in my state. Most people in my state, are very religious, almost all own guns, and we are not bitter. Why would I be bitter, I have a great job, and make 4 times the average income in my state....But it sure felt like Obama was talking down to me....

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by JeffXD

"The history of the last four years shows that red state types, above all, do not want to be told what to do—they prefer to be ignorant."

Uhhhhh, why is not wanting to be told what to do and how to do it by the government being ignorant? I don't need politicians telling me how to live and what to believe. I guess people wouldn't have taken a stand against the British Government had they believed this sort of nonsense.

This is a most idiotic statement. Although...I would imagine the British Crown thought much the same during our fight for independence.
It's also a most elitist attitude.

[Delija]

Originally Posted by FLSTFI Dave

We do not want San Fransico values as in our neck of the woods, SF has no moral or elthical values.

lol....Sounds like some "Typical White Person" here...an opinion stated as fact.

Whatever.

Originally Posted by FLSTFI Dave

Pretty easy there. MI for example would be red if Detroit was not in the equasion. CA if you took the Big Cites of SF, LA, and such out would also be red. TN, only the Major citys are Blue.

Come thing I see is areas of a very high Entitlement population, high crime, and high reliance on the govenment for everyting seem to be blue. Also areas near the Elite colleges tend to be blue. Union areas tend to be blue also, this is becuase a union is a form of colectivism, hard to fire those who do not do there fair share of the work.

Our Democrats in TN for the most part are pro-life, pro gun, against entitlements, fiscal conservatives and so on. They are for prayer in school and Ten commandments on the courts and so on.

First off, it sounds like you are talking about the old "DixieCrats", but that's beside the point.

What is to the point is saying that "If you took out the big cities...etc."....is like saying "if the Queen had balls, she'd be the King". I mean seriously......people do live in large cities. What would you propose? Move them all to farms so they'd change their politics? Put them in concentration camps?

"High reliance on the government for everything"...what does this mean? They like paved roads and safe bridges? I read constantly about the US being a "welfare state"....why do I not know of anyone on welfare? It isn't because of where I live or who I know...it's more that it's a talking point far more than a reality. If people get food stamps, wow...that's really living "high on the hog" as we've been told here (by the expected source).

"Elite colleges tend to be blue"...what does that imply? Do you feel about them like you seem to about large cities? Better off without them?

As far as union workers not doing their share of hard work....this is based on what?

Tennessee is "for prayers in school" and "the Ten Commandments on the courts and so on"...

Yeah, Tennessee is very typical of the religious beliefs of the rest of America. Scopes trial and so on. Bills introduced to require "intelligent design" to be taught in science classes. Tennessee is ONE STATE and quite unique about it's ideas about religion in schools. And very far from representative of the rest of the US.

Ten Commandments on the courts? (Where...over the judges head? Outside on a monument? Where? Why?).

Which version of the Ten Commandments? (yes, there is more than one). Who gets to choose?


Why is it that a state or the people in that state can't just leave a private matter (religion) private?

If I hang the Ten Commandments above my bed, does that make me any more religious than if I don't? More spiritual? More observant?
and most importantly.....Will God like me more?

I personally could not care less if the courthouses in Tennessee had their walls engraved with the entire Bible. Wouldn't bother me or offend me in the least. But if my tax money were used to do it, I'd think it was an enormous waste of money. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just hand out bibles to everyone who walks into the courthouse? They could do it right at the metal detector stations. Give us a gun, get a bible....LOL

Sorry dude...Guess I'm still a little sour on Tenn ....I'm still pissed at getting a $200 speeding ticket in Tenn. in December for going 9 MPH over the limit with out of state plates. Cop didn't even wish me a 'merry Christmas" (after I did to him!).

Peace,
D.

[Frenchy]

Let's just say SF's values are unique to them. They would not work for me, or many in my part of the country.

[Delija]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

Let's just say SF's values are unique to them. They would not work for me, or many in my part of the country.

I'd agree. And they would't work for me either. But that's quite a different statement than "they have no moral or ethical values'.

Peace,
D.

[Judge]

So was Janet Cooke.. and Al Gore won the Nobel, as did Arafart...

When idiots and frauds and murderers start winning awards, the awards cease to have meaning.

Originally Posted by Etta Place

By the way, Jane Smiley is a Pulitzer-prize winning novelist.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Originally Posted by Delija

lol....Sounds like some "Typical White Person" here...an opinion stated as fact.

Whatever.




Peace,
D.

While I may not have phrased it eloquantly, I did spend a couple months in San Fransico while in the Navy. And from what I saw, that city is sorely lacking in morals, and values. What I see in the news now days leads me to believe it has gotten worse, not better.

I am willing to bet most of the country does not want SF values and morals. I have lived in 10 states since I was 18, and most those states were not at all receptive to SF values an moral, and the one that was, was CA...