Patriot Act cuts into library privacy

[bountyhunter]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

In the end...if you're REALLY not planning something illegal...you probably have nothing to worry about.

- brickboy240

That's true IF AND ONLY IF:

The FED never goes after anybody who is not guilty.

Accused will always get due process and a fair trial.

If you believe that, I have a bridge you will want to buy.

[AZXD]

Burn them!
Burn them all!!
Solve two problems at once. No books and no intrusions.
Get rid of this and we can all go back to being good little citizens.

Or perhaps we should all just read something like this!!
As we willingly give up a little liberty for a little security, and one day realize we have gained neither.

But hey, this is a really old story. I wonder what caused it to be dredged up again ??
Did a librarian finally get locked up for shredding checkout receipts

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Its a double edged sword, is it not?

If another 9-11 styled event happens and they can trace the badguy's bombmaking skills to learning it in a public library, some around here will be crying "why aren't they watching for this?"

I don't know if I have a problem with this. In the end...if you're REALLY not planning something illegal...you probably have nothing to worry about.

- brickboy240

You're really not planning on shooting someone, so you won't mind giving that gun to your government assigned official, will you

[Judge]

Your only problem is that I think you really believe some of the drivel you post.

Originally Posted by bountyhunter

Yes, you certainly can say that if you choose to make an honest statement. The fact that you deny such an obvious fact says an awful lot about how far you have to twist reality to defend the Bush admin's assault on personal liberty.

It isn't as egregious as randomly searching houses or throwing people in prison without charges..... but, of course, that could never happen.... unless you have dark skin and a Muslim surname.

[Judge]

What, are you a little bored today?

Originally Posted by AZXD

Burn them!
Burn them all!!
Solve two problems at once. No books and no intrusions.
Get rid of this and we can all go back to being good little citizens.

Or perhaps we should all just read something like this!!
As we willingly give up a little liberty for a little security, and one day realize we have gained neither.

But hey, this is a really old story. I wonder what caused it to be dredged up again ??
Did a librarian finally get locked up for shredding checkout receipts

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Judge

What, are you a little bored today?

Yep

[jmichna]

Which Amendment of the Constitution covers "Right to Privacy"? I couldn't find it.

[Brickboy240]

Yep...right to privacy is nowhere to be found in the Constitution.

The comparison to me owning a gun is moot. Why? Because THAT is in the Constitution.

You have the right to view those books but you should also know good and well that your public interest in them at a public library might come under scrutiny. If we looked the other way...then others would be crying if someone learned how to build a dirty bomb at the public library and we sat back and did nothing.

Didn't we all know that these Arabs were here on expired visas and some took flying lessons...and we did nothing? Didn't INS know that John Lee Malvo was in the USA illegally and could have deported him but chose not to and he and that other guy became the DC snipers?

Whats wrong with heading it off at the pass? I know...we're not very good at it but think of what we could have thwarted if we had just been a little more careful.

- Brickboy240

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Yep...right to privacy is nowhere to be found in the Constitution.

The comparison to me owning a gun is moot. Why? Because THAT is in the Constitution.

You have the right to view those books but you should also know good and well that your public interest in them at a public library might come under scrutiny. If we looked the other way...then others would be crying if someone learned how to build a dirty bomb at the public library and we sat back and did nothing.

Didn't we all know that these Arabs were here on expired visas and some took flying lessons...and we did nothing? Didn't INS know that John Lee Malvo was in the USA illegally and could have deported him but chose not to and he and that other guy became the DC snipers?

Whats wrong with heading it off at the pass? I know...we're not very good at it but think of what we could have thwarted if we had just been a little more careful.

- Brickboy240

Great post.

Why people think that they are entitled to a "right to privacy" in the PUBLIC square is beyond me. Especially when it is not guaranteed in the constitution.

I do believe that it would be a good idea to require that warrants be issued before the government checks library records, unless a "ticking time-bomb" scenario exists. Even if that were the case, it wouldn't take much time if we set up a FISA-like court for library warrants.

I don't care if the government looks at my library records. Perhaps bountyhunter could give us a list of American citizens who have been jailed without charges based on evidence found in their library records
I know I won't get an answer, but it is still worth asking.

Frank

[AZXD]

I really love how I am told to stay in my house if I want any privacy.
I can't wait until the day arrives when we have cameras on every street corner, the guns have been confiscated and we are once again under the rightful rule of the queen. But I really think with todays dynamics, we need to go a step further ...
Perhaps a nation that rewards the good citizen for turning in a neighbor. Yes that's it!
Our own little place where we can all live in harmony. Afraid to venture out! Afraid to say what we think! Afraid of our government and the control we gladly give to them.
Bring on our version of Tinneman Square. Perhaps New York will do. They already have a Times Square. Maybe we should shoot the dissidents who question the actions of our illustrious leaders.

Oh, It's just a library card!
WTF is so special about a book in the library ?
Why, if such a book is so oriented toward terrorist activity, that it must be monitored ..... Why don't they just shoot those who attempt to look at it. Forget checking the darn thing out .... Shoot those who dare cast an eye opon the evil thing.

God save the queen