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Old 04-14-2008, 09:44 PM   #71
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Anyone who would say this about the American worker (like GW did on national TV) is out of touch with reality. We did all of these jobs before corp America got chicken sh!t cheap. We the American people got shoved out of these jobs so turd brain corporations could make more profit without getting off their fat asses and I firmly believe judge is one of those with a fat ass. No reason to think if you don't have to.
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Why can't you just disagree with people without attacking them?

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After just berating Frank for 'not checking his facts"... can you say hypocrite?

Anyway, I've worked with them repeatedly. Here's my bio:
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The private placements I used to structure involved agriculture - generally in the San Joaquin valley and Cochella valley. In 84 or 85 Congress passed a law penalizing employers for not using legal workers. We'd bot an asparagus farm (picking it is backbreaking work) and decided not to use the Mexicans (we paid them like 3.00 an hour) and hire Americans. So we ran an ad in the paper. Offered 18/hour - in 1984, which was dang good money.

The first day we had approximately 98 men show up. We hired them all. You know how many were left at the end of the day???

2.

You know how many showed up the next day???

0. Zero.

We had two choices - let the crops rot, or hire the mexicans for the work Americans didn't want to do. The rest of the San Joaquin valley (which produces like 30% of this country's fruits/vegs) had the same choice. That's why the law was never enforced, we couldn't afford to loss the production in those valleys.

Years later I was painting/remodeling houses. I handled the finishing. Had 18 men working for me at the peak. Saw my first mexican painter - guy was amazing, he would roll 5 gallons a day. My guys were luckly to do two, two & a half. I didn't hire any mexicans, I didn't trust them at first, and didn't speak spanish. But I've stayed in contact with some of the other contractors and subs, and they all agree - the housing boom that was taking place in the mid/late 90's couldn't/ wouldn't have taken place if not for the mexican labor. They worked harder and longer. Drive past a construction project and feel free to see who's working it today. As the contractors about hiring mexicans... They'll work 12, 14 hours a day some days to finish a project - without complaining. They work solid, you don't have to watch them, they don't sit down on the job if you leave them. I've talked to contractors who do business in 3 states as well as paint distributors, some who used to be my competitors before they went to work with the paint co's - while not a scientific survey, in the SE and SW, the responses are consistent.

So again, you are consistent in your track record for error. When do we get to see the next display?
I can't wait to hear about your days as a Solder of Fortune!
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Probably for the same reasons I don't believe you. The difference between me and you is I believe in the America people and you believe in selling out the American people in favor of cheap wages.
I just had a sunroom built on. They sent Mexican workers one day to do the roofing and American workers the next day to fix the roof and stop the leaks. Just my own experience.

I did hear where the Mexican businesses are bringing in Gatamalan workers because there are jobs the Mexicans won't do. I wish I could find the source for that but I remember at the time it seemed reliable. Mexico or the U.S. it's just about bringing someone in that will work for less.

Businesses have a legal right to leave the country and leave the workers behind. You also have the legal right to leave your family behind. Most don't do it because it's the wrong thing to do.
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We also have the right of not rewarding these companies with our hard-earned dollar. That is the only logical answer, IMO.
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We also have the right of not rewarding these companies with our hard-earned dollar. That is the only logical answer, IMO.
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Sorry, never did that.

The $1000 offer is still on the table if you want to take me up on it. Whether it's my wife, or my career, pick a point and put up the money if you doubt. Otherwise, you're better than the smarmy comments.



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Sorry, never did that.

The $1000 offer is still on the table if you want to take me up on it. Whether it's my wife, or my career, pick a point and put up the money if you doubt. Otherwise, you're better than the smarmy comments.
I'll be the Judge of that!
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