York Peppermint Patties Now To Be Made in Mexico

[Sudden]

Originally Posted by cjive134

I for one look forward to savoring the peppermint taste that I've heard so much about!! I will finally be able to afford this delicate treat!

That is truely funny. However, don't get your hopes up. The gain in profit will NOT be passed on to you. It will be used to give a multi-million dollar bonus to the guy that made the decision to move the production.

[Ride the Lightning]

It's not just UAW and the Teamsters either. As far as I can see it's almost every labor union in the country. My father in law works at American Airlines, currently in Ft Worth. A couple of years ago every AA union employee received a 17% pay cut, loss of a large portion of their accrued vacation, loss of several holidays, and who know what else because of the union. The company could have downsized 10% and left all of the pay and benefits the same (of course, those would have been less to start with) and hurt 1 in 10 instead of huring everyone, but the union wouldn't let them do what was best for the majority. From the AA employees I've known here in Tulsa I can say that at least 1 in 10 don't do their jobs anyway, and the company can't get rid of them because of the union. Ond guy I know never did his job (and he was PROUD of that!), then when he decided to do it he had forgotten how to do it safely and got hurt. He milked the company cow for over 2 years before the union finally let the company cut him loose. I don't feel too uncomfortable saying that GM, Ford and Chrsler as well as the major airlines would have a lot less lay offs if it weren't for the unions that dictate how they run business. Makes me wonder how much of our poor economy is really the fault of the union machine. You can only pay people $60k per year to build something that sells for $40k for so long before the numbers catch up with you. Maybe these companies should just fire everyone and start over with people who want to work and don't need their check protected by some self serving watchdog that also benefits from their employment?

[Brickboy240]

Expect more of this if Hillary/Obama slink their way into the White House, as they will make it even harder on US based businesses.

Its no secret that US based businesses are taxed at higer rates than foreign businesses. Toss in the cheaper labor and theres little incentive for companies like York to keep their factory here, is there?

This is why punishing big business has not worked. Govt. should be doing everything it can to keep businesses HERE, but they seem to do everything they can to force them out.

Wait unitl Hillary/Obama get through with the oil companies...you'll be paying 8 buck a gallon and they too will move their entie bases out of the USA because govt. has made it too difficult to conduct business here. Thats where its all going...there is a tipping point for big oil and we're getting closer and closer and the 2008 election is a crtical time for them and all US based busiensses. People are crying for change and it has become fashionable to trash big business and the politicians hear this loud and clear.

If govt. could ever pull its collective head out and make it easier on business rather than harder, maybe we'll see businesses stay here or even come back but the status quo makes it VERY hard to want to base a business in the USA.

Sad..but true.

- Brickboy240

[AZXD]

The world of big business
Does not care about you or I when it comes to this sort of deal. They have a responsibility to their stockholders and shareholders. If they can see a greater profit by moving their operations to another country, then I suggest that they are seeking profits outside the United States, and/or they have determined that even after paying the import fees, they can still make a greater profit than if the operation had remained on U.S. soil.

The management at Hershey is doing what any smart company would do. They are taking advantage of a system that allows companies to move operations out of this country and generate a greater profit potential because of the move.

IMO, they are doing nothing wrong. It might seem to suck, but they are doing nothing different than any other smart business person might do. They are increasing stockholder potential.

[Ride the Lightning]

Their employees are shareholders too. I wonder what responsibilities the company has to them?

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Expect more of this if Hillary/Obama slink their way into the White House, as they will make it even harder on US based businesses.

Its no secret that US based businesses are taxed at higer rates than foreign businesses. Toss in the cheaper labor and theres little incentive for companies like York to keep their factory here, is there?

This is why punishing big business has not worked. Govt. should be doing everything it can to keep businesses HERE, but they seem to do everything they can to force them out.

Wait unitl Hillary/Obama get through with the oil companies...you'll be paying 8 buck a gallon and they too will move their entie bases out of the USA because govt. has made it too difficult to conduct business here. Thats where its all going...there is a tipping point for big oil and we're getting closer and closer and the 2008 election is a crtical time for them and all US based busiensses. People are crying for change and it has become fashionable to trash big business and the politicians hear this loud and clear.

If govt. could ever pull its collective head out and make it easier on business rather than harder, maybe we'll see businesses stay here or even come back but the status quo makes it VERY hard to want to base a business in the USA.

Sad..but true.

- Brickboy240

Or if government had stayed out of things from the start, we would not have people getting upset over the buddy system that is now an undocumentable yet comon practice. Sanctions might work, but the favored nation stuff does little to truly help U.S. interests.

[AZXD]

Originally Posted by Ride the Lightning

Their employees are shareholders too. I wonder what responsibilities the company has to them?

That depends on what they (employees) negotiate for. Most likely they (employer) are responsible for a safe work environment and a negotiable pay level.

[XDConvert9mm]

Originally Posted by AZXD

The world of big business
Does not care about you or I when it comes to this sort of deal. They have a responsibility to their shareholders. If they can see a greater profit by moving their operations to another country, then I suggest that they are seeking profits outside the United States, and/or they have determined that even after paying the import fees, they can still make a greater profit than if the operation had remained on U.S. soil.

The management at Hershey is doing what any smart company would do. They are taking advantage of a system that allows companies to move operations out of this country and generate a greater profit potential because of the move.

IMO, they are doing nothing wrong. It might seem to suck, but they are doing nothing different than any other smart business person might do.

+1 on this. Some of the attempts I've seen here to humanize the "Evil Corporation" sometimes make me wonder. A Corp. is a collection of owners and the CEO, Board and everybody else are just employees...expendable ones at that. They truly are soulless entities, and rightly so. Their job is to make as much money as legally possible for their owners. This is their fiduciary responsibility to the ownership. The more civic minded of them (FedEx, Starbucks for example) are going above and beyond what they need to do. Make no mistake though, the dollars they spend on civic minded activities is designed and supposed to come back to them in increased sales and profit by creating goodwill. This concept might make some people:



but that's the cold facts.

[mgeoffriau]

Unless the employees have a legal contract that guarantees employment for a certain period of time, then it would seem to me that the company has the right to end their voluntary contract with the employee at any point.

Originally Posted by Ride the Lightning

Their employees are shareholders too. I wonder what responsibilities the company has to them?

[one-eyed-fatman]

If these corporate people were bright they would move corporate down to mexico too. Then they could apply for mexican citizenship. Once they have that they could denounce their U.S. citizenship and poof no more U.S. taxes. They'd all be so happy, till the mexican government got their hooks into em. Say la vi dudes, I ain't buying your stinking candy. ROFLMAO