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[Sudden]

Originally Posted by mgeoffriau

I'm not in college, fatman.

Are you in a profession that doesn't have to worry about the decline of the U.S.?

Who profits if these workers can't work and can't purchase, if they have to live off state assistance? If they are added to the people that lose their homes. "We the people" are what's important here. I hope people with your point of view get to give up your jobs and become Walmart greeters so you can feel good about your sacrafice to the betterment of the country.

[mgeoffriau]

You guys are funny. I'm in a profession that is barely holding on as it is, foreign labor or not; I work in an independent bookstore.

My point is not that Americans shouldn't have good jobs; I believe that they should. But I also believe that companies shouldn't be held hostage over who it can hire and how much they can pay them.

I'm simply amazed at the number of people who believe we have a right to jobs.

[Sudden]

Originally Posted by mgeoffriau

You guys are funny. I'm in a profession that is barely holding on as it is, foreign labor or not; I work in an independent bookstore.

My point is not that Americans shouldn't have good jobs; I believe that they should. But I also believe that companies shouldn't be held hostage over who it can hire and how much they can pay them.

I'm simply amazed at the number of people who believe we have a right to jobs.

We don't have a right to jobs. Our taxes should benefit companies that keep jobs in this country. If a company takes jobs from the U.S. and sends them elsewhere we have the right to buy products made here. What do you mean held hostage? You don't think we have a right to show preference to companies that stick with us?

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by mgeoffriau

You guys are funny. I'm in a profession that is barely holding on as it is, foreign labor or not; I work in an independent bookstore.

My point is not that Americans shouldn't have good jobs; I believe that they should. But I also believe that companies shouldn't be held hostage over who it can hire and how much they can pay them.

I'm simply amazed at the number of people who believe we have a right to jobs.

Yes sir I'm sure you would be.

[Son of Norway]

Originally Posted by mgeoffriau

I'm simply amazed at the number of people who believe we have a right to jobs.

I consider it more of a duty, personally.

It's not some act of corporate heroism to export jobs. Call it good business if you want, it's bad for America.

FWIW, Perot warned us this would happen.

[Sudden]

Originally Posted by Son of Norway

I consider it more of a duty, personally.

It's not some act of corporate heroism to export jobs. Call it good business if you want, it's bad for America.

FWIW, Perot warned us this would happen.

Exactly.

[Judge]

Perot was wrong. Capital will always find it's highest and best use. We reward the inefficient and greedy at our own expense.

If our only competition were domestic, why not just go ahead and triple everyones wages for the fun of it? Why should companies ever hire cheaper labor when they can pay more for it - and their workers benefit?

If companies shouldn't seek out the most efficient means of production, in terms of providing value to the shareholders, what should their main goal be - to overpay their workers?

Originally Posted by Son of Norway

I consider it more of a duty, personally.

It's not some act of corporate heroism to export jobs. Call it good business if you want, it's bad for America.

FWIW, Perot warned us this would happen.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by Sudden

Our taxes should benefit companies that keep jobs in this country.

Or at least tax policy should not benefit companies that export jobs.

The US attempts to tax money that US-based companies earn in other countries, but only after those profits are brought back to the US. That means profits that remain overseas, perhaps invested in new factories in low-tax countries, never get taxed at the higher US rates.

FactCheck.org: Kerry Blames Corporate Tax Code for Shipping Jobs Overseas

Since Bush took office, America has lost nearly one-fifth of its manufacturing jobs - about three million.

-According to March 24, 2008, "The American Conservative"

[Sudden]

Originally Posted by Judge

Perot was wrong. Capital will always find it's highest and best use. We reward the inefficient and greedy at our own expense.

If our only competition were domestic, why not just go ahead and triple everyones wages for the fun of it? Why should companies ever hire cheaper labor when they can pay more for it - and their workers benefit?

If companies shouldn't seek out the most efficient means of production, in terms of providing value to the shareholders, what should their main goal be - to overpay their workers?

Come on, you know the answer to those questions. No one suggested those things.

[Judge]

I was speaking to the implicit logic in the argument and perots' arguments..

Originally Posted by Sudden

Come on, you know the answer to those questions. No one suggested those things.