Further evidence Buchanan is losing it...

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by justgotback

I don't think we will be jumping into a war with Iran at this point. We have most of the world on our side with sanctions. If we start talking about military options watch how fast these so called "allies" against Iran will start looking like rats on a sinking ship...

That's about the size of it!
Plus...We would have to start recruiting the Boy and Girl Scouts.

[justgotback]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

That's about the size of it!
Plus...We would have to start recruiting the Boy and Girl Scouts.

Well at least the military would have an endless supply of good cookies!!

[Judge]

We don't have to 'got to war" with them... but it would just be nice to allow our guys to shoot back some.

Take out the manufacturing plants and the quods base...

They'll retreat within' their own border and the pro-democracy forces there will be strengthened.

Originally Posted by Frenchy

That's about the size of it!
Plus...We would have to start recruiting the Boy and Girl Scouts.

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by Judge

We don't have to 'got to war" with them... but it would just be nice to allow our guys to shoot back some.

Take out the manufacturing plants and the quods base...

They'll retreat within' their own border and the pro-democracy forces there will be strengthened.

Wouldn't that be considered an act of war?

[Judge]

Considered an act of war?? What do you call their attacks on us?


And it's not any diffferent than than bombing Quaddafi's house, or clinton taking out the camel and asprin factory.

Originally Posted by Frenchy

Wouldn't that be considered an act of war?

[Frenchy]

Of course, if we weren't there, this would be happening...would it!

[Judge]

Sure, they would then love us, just like they loved jefferson. and not that you have to answer the question....

I don't guess you mind that Hezbollah – which was created by Iran in 1982 as an offshoot of its military – has murdered/butchered more Americans than any group other than al-Qaeda. It's a shame that one thinks our presences justifies our murder.

Of course, we'd have to shut down all our embassies also - we wouldnt' want to encroach on their part of the world would we...

Beriut Embassy - 1983
Kuwait Embassy - 1983
Murder of David Dodge - American University President - 1984
Murder of William Buckley -1984
Murder of an American Sgt in Istanbul attached to the Embassy - 1991

And we could give up flying to other places in the world. We wouldn't want to upset them with our presence:
Kuwait Air 221 - Two Americans killed. Hijackers funded by, "captured" by Iranians, hijackers released.
Murder of Robert Stethem, Navy Diver, on TWA Flt 847
Pan Am Flt 301 - 1988

And we'd have to bring all our workers back home, we wouldn't want them to be offended by American's working over there:

Khobar Towers - 1996

Yes, you're right. We're to blame for Iran's attacks and murder of US citizens. We should just stand by and let them continue. They are completely right in supplying the IED's and training that are responsible for what - 20% of American deaths in Iraq??

Gawd, I bet you hate Jefferson... It's all his fault. If he'd just surrendered, everyone in the world would love us.

Originally Posted by Frenchy

Of course, if we weren't there, this would be happening...would it!

[DanTheEldest]

"Islam was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, and it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners and that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found."

--attributed in 1786 to the Algerian ambassador in a meeting with Jefferson and Adams concerning the violence against American shipping by the Barbary pirates.

Apparently nothing new under the sun, as they say.

Originally Posted by Judge

Gawd, I bet you hate Jefferson... It's all his fault. If he'd just surrendered, everyone in the world would love us.

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by Judge

Sure, they would then love us, just like they loved jefferson. and not that you have to answer the question....

I don't guess you mind that Hezbollah – which was created by Iran in 1982 as an offshoot of its military – has murdered/butchered more Americans than any group other than al-Qaeda. It's a shame that one thinks our presences justifies our murder.

Of course, we'd have to shut down all our embassies also - we wouldnt' want to encroach on their part of the world would we...

Beriut Embassy - 1983
Kuwait Embassy - 1983
Murder of David Dodge - American University President - 1984
Murder of William Buckley -1984
Murder of an American Sgt in Istanbul attached to the Embassy - 1991

And we could give up flying to other places in the world. We wouldn't want to upset them with our presence:
Kuwait Air 221 - Two Americans killed. Hijackers funded by, "captured" by Iranians, hijackers released.
Murder of Robert Stethem, Navy Diver, on TWA Flt 847
Pan Am Flt 301 - 1988

And we'd have to bring all our workers back home, we wouldn't want them to be offended by American's working over there:

Khobar Towers - 1996

Yes, you're right. We're to blame for Iran's attacks and murder of US citizens. We should just stand by and let them continue. They are completely right in supplying the IED's and training that are responsible for what - 20% of American deaths in Iraq??

Gawd, I bet you hate Jefferson... It's all his fault. If he'd just surrendered, everyone in the world would love us.

There was Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates and then the Muslims didn't bother us until 1983?

[Judge]

Well, actually it begans before that... John Paul Jones encountered muslim suicide squads in Turkey in 1788 and obviously before that the Crusades.

There are isolated incidences of muslims killing Americns through the ages - the most noted is Sirhan Sirhan killing Robert Kennedy. But if you study jihad, they are admonished that when they get their islamic asses kicked, they should go back to their rat holes and wait till they are strong again then attack again. When we finish kicking their ass this time, we'll probably not hear from them for another 100 or 200 years.

Originally Posted by Etta Place

There was Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates and then the Muslims didn't bother us until 1983?