Peanut Prez Strikes Again....

[robin48]

Originally Posted by bountyhunter

Wow. I wonder what the GOP will do if carter ever dies.... they will need to invent a new whipping boy to blame the world's problems on. maybe John Murtha? Yeah, maybe carter's take on the ME is not in line with official US policy... but look where the blind and unconditional support of Israel has gotten us over time.

And, I agree he may be talking with terrorists. Exactly how will anybody ever stabilize the region if they don't? And BTW..... if we are throwing the "T" word around, there is such a thing as State Terrorism. You know.... when a country invades it's neighbor to "root out terrorists" and kills five or six hundred civilains as collateral damage? Not that I am implying Palestinians are human and that their lives have value..... I'm just saying sonme people might think their lives were actually worth something.


What a coincidence, I was just thinking the same thing about the country of saudi Arabia.....

Spoken like a true California liberal

[robin48]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Personally, I think comparing the threat from a bunch of disorganized radicals to the threat from a major superpower capable of destroying the United States many times over is ludicrous.

Tell that to the families of 9/11

[robin48]

Originally Posted by eric_t12

dont point that stuff out kevwyo,

there's no comparison between the two so your points are moot



yet by frank's own admission...



really? not ALL? please name the ones that the bush administration has openly attempted to speak with, those that have attempted to speak with us, and which were denied by the other.

now let's name some people who are actually attempting to speak to these "terrorist organizations", kevwyo pointed out some,and maybe we can find out who's pointing out poor comparisons.

and considering the fact that we have only been attacked by al qaeda (who Secretary of Defense Wolfowitz even said had a major point of contention with our troops in the Kindom of Saud,) not Hamas, or al sadr (until we invaded,) or "sunni/shiite insurgents" (until we invaded,) i find that implication of attack by them is also... misplaced; read: ridiculous.

and i dont remember hamas threatening the US, either, actually... threatening israel probably, but to some on this forum, the palestinians are nothing more than "illegal immigrants" (who happened to be there the whole time.) therefore they should apparently just be deported, or something, i'm not really sure what judge meant when he said that... but either way they haven't attacked us (just like the USSR) so they shouldn't be worried about.

so if you want to actually go after the heads of al qaeda (note: not just AQ in iraq,) i'm all for it! then maybe we can go after the ones who really committed 9/11. not the ones who broke UN resolutions, had irrefutible WMDs, and 'harbored al qaeda'.

i find the notion that you should be worried about people who are capable of your complete distruction less than those who could possibly, maybe, someday have some type of weapon or system to hurt us pretty badly (should they get organized, because even you say they aren't), but never have the capability to truly destroy our entire country.

maybe that's just me...

eta: also, if youre worried about hamas killing several thousand in israel, maybe the idea that nationalist and red china combined, murdered 30 MILLION (give or take a few million, you know, here or there) people, and also have 145 nuclear weapons deployed as of 2006, whereas we're struggling to find ANY where they're supposed to be in these "more threatning countries"... maybe that idea will sit well in your think-tank.

like syria. who have not only never attacked us, but we also gave nuclear material to iraq, who by many on here's unerring belief, gave them to syria.

note on that site Iran also got nuclear material from us or our allies...

Some of the founders of Hamas planned the 1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Beirut where many of our finest were killed. I was there.

[robin48]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

Should the US wage war on all Muslim countries?...Yes or no.

Do we have the moral authority to do so?

I believe it is time to plan and began to execute an exit plan from Iraq, but I also believe we should retaliate against each terrorist act in an appropriately exagerated way. I learned fighting as a kid. If you are pushed retaliate harshly enough so your enemy never wants seconds

[robin48]

Originally Posted by Etta Place

Okay, this was written in 2004. I'm not sure he feels the same way. But he would treat terrorism as a law enforcement matter. Do you realize how much cheaper that would be?

Of course, I still contend that if the U.S. just stopped 1) bombing people, 2) invading countries, 3) installing despots, 4) acting oblivious to the horrific acts of Israel against the Palestianians, 5) treating foreign countries as markets to be exploited, including arranging it so American multinationals confiscated the natural resources of such countries, and 6) generally behaving like an arrogant bully, they would have very few, if any, problems with terrorists.

So we should just allow the Palestinians to continue horrific attacks agains Israeli women and children. Anti-semitism raises it holocaustic head.

[robin48]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

The UN in it's present guise is corrupt and useless. No one in their right mind can justify it's existence.

This may be the first time I have agreed with frenchy

[robin48]

Originally Posted by jdavionic

Funny, I had the same reaction to Carter. I thought Reagan was much more in control.

I remember my mom crying when the Rabbit Slayer was elected. Oh wait the rabbit was hunting him. My mistake

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by robin48

So we should just allow the Palestinians to continue horrific attacks agains Israeli women and children. Anti-semitism raises it holocaustic head.

Are you a real person or are you just here to stir up sh*t?

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by robin48

So we should just allow the Palestinians to continue horrific attacks agains Israeli women and children. Anti-semitism raises it holocaustic head.

The Israelis have also committed horrific acts.

And, why is it the responsibility of the U.S. to correct what goes on in the world?

[Etta Place]

Originally Posted by robin48

Tell that to the families of 9/11

I stand by my statement.