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Old 03-25-2008, 03:00 AM   #1
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Woulda-coulda-shouldas on Iraq

I get tired of all the monday morning quarterbacking on the web sites and thought this was an informative article on the war on terror.

American Thinker: Woulda-coulda-shouldas on Iraq

"The woulda-coulda-shouldas sprang forth on the five-year anniversary of the overthrow of Saddam Hussein last week. It was Monday morning quarterbacking, mostly. Pundits confuse their personal brainstorms with history, and pretend they could have carried that football better than George W. Bush did in 2003; or even more bizarrely, they imagine there was no game at all that day. Saddam was obviously harmless, as the media think they know after the fact. 9/11 was a one-time accident. On Monday morning everything is clear....."

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Old 03-25-2008, 03:15 AM   #2
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My thoughts on the war 5 years after, are the same as day one. No 20/20 hindsight here.
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Old 03-25-2008, 06:56 AM   #3
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My thoughts on the war 5 years after, are the same as day one. No 20/20 hindsight here.

Me too. I was against it from the beginning. Bush lost my support after he started talking about war with Iraq, and I had voted for him in 2000.
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How interesting, Monday morning quarterbacking Monday morning quarterbacks.

I can see the value of your argument, there is something to say about what you are talking about. However, you should have picked a better article to make your point than the one you posted. That article is sheer fertilizer. I'm not sure it's worth more than toilet paper.

Fact 2. Nuclear weapons are spreading. We can argue about the specifics. The general fact is unarguable, and has to be dealt with. Current most dangerous candidates: Iran and North Korea.

Five years ago, given our miserable intelligence, it was rational to suppose that Saddam was close to nukes. (In fact, he kept the capacity and expertise intact). And surprise: It now turns out that Libya was much closer to nukes than we ever imagined. So today we've knocked out two of those plausible threats, with two left to go.


Wow. Iran has not had a active program since 2003. Saddam was no where near nukes. He was a breath away from being removed for 10 years. Do you really think he would have gone nuke, or gone nuke to supply someone else? He was a tyrant, not suicidal. 9/11, which he had nothing to do with, did him in. For 10 years prior he did nothing to warrant an invasion.

Of course that is my Monday morning assessment. Isn't the internet great?
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I'm not sure football covers a 5 year offensive with 100 to go
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I get tired of all the monday morning quarterbacking on the web sites and thought this was an informative article on the war on terror.
OK. And lots of other people are tired of an administration that won't take any responsibility for the blunders thay have made and accept the fact that ANY presidnent must be damn sure of his facts before he puts our forces into battle.

It's all whining, excuses, finger pointing, and flat out lies and selective filtering of information.

The bottom line that neither Bush nor any of his supporters will admit:

He is commander in chief, it was on his authority we pulled the main force out of Afghanistan (where we were actually fighting our enemy) and sent them to Iraq to fight a tinpot dictator who posed no threat. period. Bush can make all the excuses he wants, it is his responsibility. If he followed bad advice or information, then he is a moron who went to war without the facts. if he knew the facts, then he is just a liar who wanted to depose Hussein. Either way, he is responsible.
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My thoughts on the war 5 years after, are the same as day one. No 20/20 hindsight here.
It's funny how conveniently the Bushies forget that many of us said loudly then what we say now: no threat in Iraq, don't divert from the real war against Bin laden in Afghanistan, stay focused on the true threat to our country.
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OK. And lots of other people are tired of an administration that won't take any responsibility for the blunders thay have made and accept the fact that ANY presidnent must be damn sure of his facts before he puts our forces into battle.

It's all whining, excuses, finger pointing, and flat out lies and selective filtering of information.

The bottom line that neither Bush nor any of his supporters will admit:

He is commander in chief, it was on his authority we pulled the main force out of Afghanistan (where we were actually fighting our enemy) and sent them to Iraq to fight a tinpot dictator who posed no threat. period. Bush can make all the excuses he wants, it is his responsibility. If he followed bad advice or information, then he is a moron who went to war without the facts. if he knew the facts, then he is just a liar who wanted to depose Hussein. Either way, he is responsible.
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Saddam was no where near nukes. He was a breath away from being removed for 10 years. Do you really think he would have gone nuke, or gone nuke to supply someone else? He was a tyrant, not suicidal.
Bullseye. Interesting how all of the Bushco arguments hinge on the claim that Hussein would have committed suicide by supplying WMD to terror groups or used them against nations capable of vaporizing Iraq. Bushco has always tried to paint Hussein as a Muslim fanatic aligned with Bin Laden types: in reality, Hussein was not truly Islamic, he was just a greedy thug who pretended to be a Muslim for the political mileage. His only priority was wealth and his own survival (the former bought the latter).


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9/11, which he had nothing to do with, did him in. For 10 years prior he did nothing to warrant an invasion.
9-11 was just a bogus excuse that Cheney and company used as an excuse to topple his regime.... finishing the job form the first Gulf war.
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ROTFLMAO...
What a stinging rebuttal. Your most intelligent reply to date.

No content..... which is what makes it your most intelligent reply to date.

I was tempted to ask you to actually write something related to the topic.... then realized what a mistake that would be based on past performance.

have a nice day.

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