Cheney again links Iraq invasion to 9/11 attacks as bombing victims are buried

[rupert]

Cheney again links Iraq invasion to 9/11 attacks as bombing victims are buried - Yahoo! News

Some highlights

"This month, an exhaustive Pentagon-sponsored review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents captured during the 2003 U.S. invasion found no evidence that Saddam's regime had any operational links with the al Qaida terrorist network."

Interesting..............

About the Reconcilliation Conference

"But only half of the 700 invited guests showed up, and any real chance for negotiations dissolved when both the leading Sunni Muslim bloc and the powerful faction loyal to the rebel Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al Sadr announced boycotts."


"We entered the conference to reaffirm our support for national reconciliation, and we left to show our rejection of all these fake conferences," Nassar al Rubaiye , a Sadr-allied lawmaker, said of his group's walkout. Most Sunnis and Sadrists didn't participate, and Shiite lawmakers in attendance hinted that the groups weren't missed."

It seems as MOST of us know our leaders are lying to us and letting us down and Iraq's leaders are lying and letting them down.


We have troops overthere that will continue to be there untill Iraq's government gets its head out of its ass. I dont see that happening anytime soon.

Seems somethings dont change in 2 years since I was there.

I applaud the U.S. Military for making the headway overthere with the security I have heard about....but my applause ends there!

[Judge]

Two things... one, the headline you and the reporter gave is misleading... cheney didn't link Iraq to 9/11, he linked it to terrorism... he understands this is a war on terror, not just the AQ leadership.

Secondly, I posted (Lies liberals love...) of the numerous links between AQ/terrorist organizations and Saddam.

The facts are out there... while you're entitled to your own opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts.

Originally Posted by rupert

Cheney again links Iraq invasion to 9/11 attacks as bombing victims are buried - Yahoo! News

Some highlights

"This month, an exhaustive Pentagon-sponsored review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents captured during the 2003 U.S. invasion found no evidence that Saddam's regime had any operational links with the al Qaida terrorist network."

Interesting..............

About the Reconcilliation Conference

"But only half of the 700 invited guests showed up, and any real chance for negotiations dissolved when both the leading Sunni Muslim bloc and the powerful faction loyal to the rebel Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al Sadr announced boycotts."


"We entered the conference to reaffirm our support for national reconciliation, and we left to show our rejection of all these fake conferences," Nassar al Rubaiye , a Sadr-allied lawmaker, said of his group's walkout. Most Sunnis and Sadrists didn't participate, and Shiite lawmakers in attendance hinted that the groups weren't missed."

It seems as MOST of us know our leaders are lying to us and letting us down and Iraq's leaders are lying and letting them down.


We have troops overthere that will continue to be there untill Iraq's government gets its head out of its ass. I dont see that happening anytime soon.

Seems somethings dont change in 2 years since I was there.

I applaud the U.S. Military for making the headway overthere with the security I have heard about....but my applause ends there!

[rupert]

All I did was post a published article and added my opinions at the end.

I feel most would agree with my opinions.

I have seen little evidence outside of the bush admin. shows as their own showing much of the things you hold to be true about Iraq and terrorism prior to the war.

I am talking about things we know as facts now not what the "evidence" showed in prior to '03.

[rupert]

Originally Posted by Judge

Two things... one, the headline you and the reporter gave is misleading... cheney didn't link Iraq to 9/11, he linked it to terrorism... he understands this is a war on terror, not just the AQ leadership.

Secondly, I posted (Lies liberals love...) of the numerous links between AQ/terrorist organizations and Saddam.

The facts are out there... while you're entitled to your own opinion, you're not entitled to your own facts.

What do you think about the advances made by the Iraqi governemnt and military? Since we cant leave untill they can govern/protect their own people.

[Judge]

I've always said they needed stability to coalesce the gov't... I think as stability has improved, so has the gov't... In the next day or two, I'll post on the progress the gov't has made, but that hasn't been in the media.

Everyone should remember, after the Revolutionary War, during peacetime, it still took us 13 years to form a government and it was a little shaky for a while..

Originally Posted by rupert

What do you think about the advances made by the Iraqi governemnt and military? Since we cant leave untill they can govern/protect their own people.

[Powerman]

Originally Posted by Judge

I've always said they needed stability to coalesce the gov't... I think as stability has improved, so has the gov't... In the next day or two, I'll post on the progress the gov't has made, but that hasn't been in the media.

Everyone should remember, after the Revolutionary War, during peacetime, it still took us 13 years to form a government and it was a little shaky for a while..

I wish you would stop comparing this to colonial America. We won our independence. While the colonies didn't want to live under British rule, they hadn't given much thought to the United States.

The war was over, nobody was dying, and foreign soldiers were not sacrificing their blood for our time. There was no hury to enact a form of government that had never been attempted before. There was no blueprint to go with.

Hello, technology. Do you remember that in those days getting to the capital took 2-3 days by horse. There was no mail system. there were very limited printing presses, and a little thing called telephones and computers had not been invented yet.

While this may very well take more time that thought, the number one thing that has taken the most time is for all the waring factions to sit down at the table and do what is right for the COUNTRY. Meantime American soldiers are spilling thier blood to secure THEIR security and freedom, while the government takes off the Summer, and half the invited guests boycott the recent unification meeting.

Please spare me the comparisons to the founding of the U.S. Not the same situation, not the same circumstances, not the same assets, not even the same century.

[one-eyed-fatman]

Originally Posted by rupert

What do you think about the advances made by the Iraqi governemnt and military? Since we cant leave untill they can govern/protect their own people.

Did you know that 47 countries have re-established
> their embassies in Iraq ?
>
> Did you know that the Iraqi government
> currently employs 1.2 million Iraqi peopl e?
>
> Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated,
> 364 schools are under rehabilitation,
> 263 new schools are now under construction
> and 38 new schools have been completed in Iraq ?
>
> Did you know that Iraq 's higher educational
> structure consists of 20 Universities,
> 46 Institutes or colleges and 4 research centers, < /FONT>
> all currently operating?
>
> Did you know that 25 Iraq students departed
> for the United States in January 2005
> for the re-established Fulbright program?
>
> Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is operational?
> They have 5 -100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels
> and a naval infantry regiment.
>
> Did you know that Iraq 's Air Force consists of three operational
> squadrons,
> which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US C-130 transport aircraft
> (under Iraqi operational control)
> which operate day and night, and will soon add
> 16 UH-1 helicopters and 4 Bell Jet Rangers?
>
> Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist
> unit and a Commando Battalion?
>
> Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000
> f ully trained and equipped police officers?
>
> Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq
> that produce over 3500 new officers every 8 weeks?
>
> Did you know there are more than 1100
> building projects going on in Iraq ?
> They i nclude 364 schools, 67 public clinics,
> 15 hospitals, 83 railroad stations,
> 22 oil facilities, 93 water facilities
> and 69 electrical facilities.
>
> Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5
> have received the first 2 series of polio vaccinations?
>
> Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were
> enrolled in primary school by mid October?
>
> Did you know that there are 1,192,000
> cell phone subscribers in Iraq
> and phone use has gone up 158%?
>
> Did you know that Iraq has an independent
> media that consists of 75 radio stations,
> 180 newspapers and 10 television stations?
>
> Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange
> opened in June of 2004?
>
> Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi
> presidential election had a televised debate recently?
>
> OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW!
>
> WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?
>
> BECAUSE...
>
>
> OUR MEDIA WOULDN'T TELL US!
>
> Instead of reflecting our love for our country,
> we get photos of flag burning incidents at Abu Ghraib
> and people throwing snowballs at the presidential motorcades.
>
> Tragically, the lack of accentuating the positive in Iraq serves two
> purposes:
>
> It is intended to undermine the world's perception of the United
States
> thus minimizing consequent support,
> and it is intended to discourage American citizens .
>
> ---- Above facts are verifiable on the Department of Defense web
site..

[rupert]

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

Did you know that 47 countries have re-established
> their embassies in Iraq ?
>
> Did you know that the Iraqi government
> currently employs 1.2 million Iraqi peopl e?
>
> Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated,
> 364 schools are under rehabilitation,
> 263 new schools are now under construction
> and 38 new schools have been completed in Iraq ?
>
> Did you know that Iraq 's higher educational
> structure consists of 20 Universities,
> 46 Institutes or colleges and 4 research centers, < /FONT>
> all currently operating?
>
> Did you know that 25 Iraq students departed
> for the United States in January 2005
> for the re-established Fulbright program?
>
> Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is operational?
> They have 5 -100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels
> and a naval infantry regiment.
>
> Did you know that Iraq 's Air Force consists of three operational
> squadrons,
> which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US C-130 transport aircraft
> (under Iraqi operational control)
> which operate day and night, and will soon add
> 16 UH-1 helicopters and 4 Bell Jet Rangers?
>
> Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist
> unit and a Commando Battalion?
>
> Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000
> f ully trained and equipped police officers?
>
> Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq
> that produce over 3500 new officers every 8 weeks?
>
> Did you know there are more than 1100
> building projects going on in Iraq ?
> They i nclude 364 schools, 67 public clinics,
> 15 hospitals, 83 railroad stations,
> 22 oil facilities, 93 water facilities
> and 69 electrical facilities.
>
> Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5
> have received the first 2 series of polio vaccinations?
>
> Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were
> enrolled in primary school by mid October?
>
> Did you know that there are 1,192,000
> cell phone subscribers in Iraq
> and phone use has gone up 158%?
>
> Did you know that Iraq has an independent
> media that consists of 75 radio stations,
> 180 newspapers and 10 television stations?
>
> Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange
> opened in June of 2004?
>
> Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi
> presidential election had a televised debate recently?
>
> OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW!
>
> WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?
>
> BECAUSE...
>
>
> OUR MEDIA WOULDN'T TELL US!
>
> Instead of reflecting our love for our country,
> we get photos of flag burning incidents at Abu Ghraib
> and people throwing snowballs at the presidential motorcades.
>
> Tragically, the lack of accentuating the positive in Iraq serves two
> purposes:
>
> It is intended to undermine the world's perception of the United
States
> thus minimizing consequent support,
> and it is intended to discourage American citizens .
>
> ---- Above facts are verifiable on the Department of Defense web
site..

I knew about 90% of this..........my opinion still stands.

[rupert]

Originally Posted by Judge

I've always said they needed stability to coalesce the gov't... I think as stability has improved, so has the gov't... In the next day or two, I'll post on the progress the gov't has made, but that hasn't been in the media.

Everyone should remember, after the Revolutionary War, during peacetime, it still took us 13 years to form a government and it was a little shaky for a while..

Well Communication made for alot of delays back then.....Im sure if the internet or satalites were around that number would dwindle down some....and again....it's not a fair comparison.

I look forward to your post on improvments by the government. I agree the media dosent tell us the full truth, they tell us what will help ratings.

I feel our government is doing a better job in iraq then their own government. SAD!

[Frenchy]

Originally Posted by one-eyed-fatman

Did you know that 47 countries have re-established
> their embassies in Iraq ?
>
> Did you know that the Iraqi government
> currently employs 1.2 million Iraqi peopl e?
>
> Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated,
> 364 schools are under rehabilitation,
> 263 new schools are now under construction
> and 38 new schools have been completed in Iraq ?
>
> Did you know that Iraq 's higher educational
> structure consists of 20 Universities,
> 46 Institutes or colleges and 4 research centers, < /FONT>
> all currently operating?
>
> Did you know that 25 Iraq students departed
> for the United States in January 2005
> for the re-established Fulbright program?
>
> Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is operational?
> They have 5 -100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels
> and a naval infantry regiment.
>
> Did you know that Iraq 's Air Force consists of three operational
> squadrons,
> which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US C-130 transport aircraft
> (under Iraqi operational control)
> which operate day and night, and will soon add
> 16 UH-1 helicopters and 4 Bell Jet Rangers?
>
> Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist
> unit and a Commando Battalion?
>
> Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000
> f ully trained and equipped police officers?
>
> Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq
> that produce over 3500 new officers every 8 weeks?
>
> Did you know there are more than 1100
> building projects going on in Iraq ?
> They i nclude 364 schools, 67 public clinics,
> 15 hospitals, 83 railroad stations,
> 22 oil facilities, 93 water facilities
> and 69 electrical facilities.
>
> Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5
> have received the first 2 series of polio vaccinations?
>
> Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were
> enrolled in primary school by mid October?
>
> Did you know that there are 1,192,000
> cell phone subscribers in Iraq
> and phone use has gone up 158%?
>
> Did you know that Iraq has an independent
> media that consists of 75 radio stations,
> 180 newspapers and 10 television stations?
>
> Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange
> opened in June of 2004?
>
> Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi
> presidential election had a televised debate recently?
>
> OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW!
>
> WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?
>
> BECAUSE...
>
>
> OUR MEDIA WOULDN'T TELL US!
>
> Instead of reflecting our love for our country,
> we get photos of flag burning incidents at Abu Ghraib
> and people throwing snowballs at the presidential motorcades.
>
> Tragically, the lack of accentuating the positive in Iraq serves two
> purposes:
>
> It is intended to undermine the world's perception of the United
States
> thus minimizing consequent support,
> and it is intended to discourage American citizens .
>
> ---- Above facts are verifiable on the Department of Defense web
site..

Very impressive, but the government still hasn't met it's benchmarks, and that's what gets us out of there.