Scope of Heller case... - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

**mhillsing23** · 03-17-2008, 03:24 PM

Speaking of the DC handgun ban in relation to the DC v Heller case, a Georgetown University law professor said the following: "There is almost no other enacted gun law that would be threatened by this case."

Seriously? We have the interpretation of the 2A before the Supreme Court and he thinks that the only thing at stake is the DC handgun ban. I don't think so! I think that it could be hard to overestimate the breadth of this decision for our near future of gun rights in the nation.

XDTALK · 03-17-2008, 05:22 PM

if the sup court rules against the overturn of the dc ban, it could be used to overturn other pro gun laws i think

**AZXD** · 03-17-2008, 07:54 PM

Tomorrow!

Life as we know it will begin to change tomorrow.

XDConvert9mm · 03-17-2008, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZXD

Tomorrow!

Life as we know it will begin to change tomorrow.

Very true. We'll begin to know what plans to make after this is picked over and analyzed to death. Third week of June is the ETA for a decision, right?

**AZXD** · 03-17-2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XDConvert9mm

Very true. We'll begin to know what plans to make after this is picked over and analyzed to death. Third week of June is the ETA for a decision, right?

I'm not positive. But I know tomorrow starts tomorrow

FrankRizzoXD40 · 03-17-2008, 08:39 PM

The entire future of our country is at stake. If the Supreme Court overturns the repeal of the gun-ban, then far-left groups--including the ACLU and others--will be able to use this decision as precedent to file anti-gun lawsuits THROUGHOUT THE NATION. Such a decision will give them everything they need to institute whatever gun laws they want. It will be the beginning of a thousand years of darkness if we get a SCOTUS ruling AGAINST the 2nd amendment.

On the other hand, if the supreme court UPHOLDS the overturning of the DC gun ban on 2A grounds, there is a great chance that our gun rights will never be threatened again--at least for for at least a century or so. SCOTUS precedent upholding the 2A as an individual right would give the NRA and other groups precendent to file lawsuits seeking the overturning of anti-gun laws all over the country.

NO MATTER HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT BUSH.....if his Supreme Court judges end up saving the 2nd Amendment as an individual right, rather than a collective right, and our gun rights end up being protected and restored, we should all be thankful to him. The opposite would apply if his judges screw us.

This is a huge deal folks. The individual liberties battle of the millenium is upon us.

Frank

afmo · 03-17-2008, 11:13 PM

arguably, there has not been a better SCOTUS setup to get a 2a favorable ruling than there is now. again, i'm cautiously optimistic.

Judge · 03-18-2008, 06:03 AM

for those who say "whoever the President is, doesn't matter", well, this is why it matters greatly... Suppose Hillary or Obama, instead of Bush, had appointed the last two Supremes.....

Our case would have zero chance... The 2A would be re-written permanently.

**Frenchy** · 03-18-2008, 06:17 AM

Ultimately, will their decision really have a bearing on state constitutions? I think not. The right to regulate has always been with the state.

Judge · 03-18-2008, 06:28 AM

Not since the civil war and the 14th Amendment. Almost all Federal constitutional protections have been held to apply to the states.

with the exception of the 2nd, which has not previously been ruled upon... however, it is likely it will be extended as were the others.

IMHO.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenchy

Ultimately, will their decision really have a bearing on state constitutions? I think not. The right to regulate has always been with the state.

03-17-2008, 03:24 PM	#1
mhillsing23 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: +38 26 31 -90 22 48 Posts: 2,481	Scope of Heller case... Speaking of the DC handgun ban in relation to the DC v Heller case, a Georgetown University law professor said the following: "There is almost no other enacted gun law that would be threatened by this case." Seriously? We have the interpretation of the 2A before the Supreme Court and he thinks that the only thing at stake is the DC handgun ban. I don't think so! I think that it could be hard to overestimate the breadth of this decision for our near future of gun rights in the nation. __________________ Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them. - Ronald Wilson Reagan

03-17-2008, 07:54 PM	#3
AZXD XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 14,675	Tomorrow! Life as we know it will begin to change tomorrow. __________________ SCOTUS judge appointments ... Will last much longer than Obama or McCain. Who do you want selecting people who have the ability to support or remove individual rights ?? AZXD At least I don't need any Viagra just to get myself to a point where I can do the Palin librarian fantasy Veep thing. KEVWYO There are a bunch of you that need to hit the head and grab your jar of vaseline and just get it over with. KEVWYO

03-17-2008, 08:39 PM	#6
FrankRizzoXD40 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,697	The entire future of our country is at stake. If the Supreme Court overturns the repeal of the gun-ban, then far-left groups--including the ACLU and others--will be able to use this decision as precedent to file anti-gun lawsuits THROUGHOUT THE NATION. Such a decision will give them everything they need to institute whatever gun laws they want. It will be the beginning of a thousand years of darkness if we get a SCOTUS ruling AGAINST the 2nd amendment. On the other hand, if the supreme court UPHOLDS the overturning of the DC gun ban on 2A grounds, there is a great chance that our gun rights will never be threatened again--at least for for at least a century or so. SCOTUS precedent upholding the 2A as an individual right would give the NRA and other groups precendent to file lawsuits seeking the overturning of anti-gun laws all over the country. NO MATTER HOW YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT BUSH.....if his Supreme Court judges end up saving the 2nd Amendment as an individual right, rather than a collective right, and our gun rights end up being protected and restored, we should all be thankful to him. The opposite would apply if his judges screw us. This is a huge deal folks. The individual liberties battle of the millenium is upon us. Frank __________________ XD-40 Service, bi-tone Crossbreed Supertuck CCW holder _________________ Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. -Ronald Reagan

03-17-2008, 11:13 PM	#7
afmo XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern California Posts: 2,852	arguably, there has not been a better SCOTUS setup to get a 2a favorable ruling than there is now. again, i'm cautiously optimistic. __________________ What country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure. - Thomas Jefferson Ruger 22/45 MKIII Springfield XD-9 Service Stevens Model 67 Series E 12g 1948 M44 Mosin-Nagant

03-18-2008, 06:17 AM	#9
Frenchy XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mid-Missouri Posts: 13,169	Ultimately, will their decision really have a bearing on state constitutions? I think not. The right to regulate has always been with the state. __________________ ~SC Harvey~ 2008 Election..."Embrace your ignorance, and vote your preference". It's quite simple, really... *If you vote for Obama, you are a fuking idiot. If you vote for McCain, you are a fuking idiot.* *If your vote is for the lessor of two evils, then you can be comforted knowing that you're less of a fuking idiot than the other guy! Because Fritz says so! RON PAUL IN 2008**

03-17-2008, 05:22 PM	#2
XDTALK XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7	if the sup court rules against the overturn of the dc ban, it could be used to overturn other pro gun laws i think

03-18-2008, 06:03 AM	#8
Judge XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,814	for those who say "whoever the President is, doesn't matter", well, this is why it matters greatly... Suppose Hillary or Obama, instead of Bush, had appointed the last two Supremes..... Our case would have zero chance... The 2A would be re-written permanently.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode