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2/3 of Iraq has been under a no fly zone and enforced by us since GWI. Iraq has been the most monitored patch of land for the last decade. If you believe that Saddam dug a hole and buried a large stockpile of weapons without us knowing, then you believe our intelligence assets are completely blind. Remember in the 60's we could see missiles on ships and sites being prepared. Saddam was our enemy. Same as Syria. If we went to war for that stockpile of WMDs, the same one that was shipped across the border without us seeing it, then why have we not invaded Syria? A enemy of the U.S., and an enemy of Israel, that now possesses the very stockpile of WMDs we went to war for. And you call that "highly plausible"
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If you think we were/are able to monitor every truck that moves about in Iraq or that crosses a boarder, you are living in a fantasy. We are good, but not that good.
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No we can't monitor every truck that crosses the border. However, if you think we can't monitor weapons depots in Iraq and weapons unloading in Syria, then you are living in the 1800s. We are that good. We can read a license plate from space. Not only do we have satellites, but we had the 71, and surveillance drones operating at will over the skys of Iraq.
The thing is we didn't go there for the few pre GWI weapons we found. We went there for the active WMD program and the large stockpile of weapons. If you believe that some how slipped by, then it is not me that is living in fantasy.
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Your thinking is really flawed...
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When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans ...... And so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. Bill Clinton, 3-22-94 |
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And opium.
Peace, D.
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I have no problem with the fact that they are not there, because they never existed. Yes we had some intel, but we didn't fully investigate in a prudent manner. We (administration) just ran with whatever gave us a reason to invade. However, somehow, those that believed it back then, just can't let go, and have to come up with some wild story about how they vanished into thin air. Either he had them and we knew where, and we knew what, or he didn't. We can't know who, what, and where, and then all of a sudden mysteriously loose track of them. Your thinking is flawed. The only logical, "plausible" explanation, is that they didn't exist in the first place. And while we did have some intel, and therefore Bush did not "lie", or manufacture it, he did not explore all options in a prudent manner. He made his case for invasion, and since then that case has not panned out.
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I forgot about that. This war has certainly been a boon for the opium trade.
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And looking back I should of clarified my point, instead of letting it sit out there. When I said "oil", I didn't literally mean barrels, I meant control of it. Agreeing with an earlier post, I forget who said it (para-phrasing) "without oil we wouldn't care about Iraq".
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actually he did... and Iraq was not that closely monitored...
SH buried MIG-25 Foxbats, we didn't know about or know where - till local intel was provided us. Quote:
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