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Ride the Lightning · 03-14-2008, 12:47 PM

In my relatively short time here I've noticed that there are a lot of people that really hate George W Bush and feel he is the worst POTUS we've had in a very long time. I would like to know specific reasons why. Not things like "He destroyed the economy" or "He led us to way". I want specifics like "He supported and signed xxxxx legislation to do xxxxxxxx". Anybody got anything, or does everyone just hate because the media tells them to?

cucamelsmd15 · 03-14-2008, 12:58 PM

Sure, why not:
Patriot Act
Military Comissions Act of 2006
Suspension of Habeas Corpus
Total disregard to the Fourth Amendment
Would support another AWB
"Economic Stimulus" checks
Open Borders

That should be enough to get you started.

jtkratzer · 03-14-2008, 01:44 PM

I didn't care for the amount of spending devoted to the Medicare Part D program.

**AZXD** · 03-14-2008, 01:53 PM

I'm not really that happy with some of the Exectutive Orders that shift the countries power structure.

cjive134 · 03-14-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jtkratzer

I didn't care for the amount of spending devoted to the Medicare Part D program.

Also, Part D insurance companies can't bargain with the drug companies the way that my insurance company can. This adds a great deal to the cost. Bush found a way to make his friends rich while leaving old people to pay higher prices. Higher prices mean that old people end up in the so called "donut hole" much quicker and then must pay for their drugs out of pockets. Thanks George!

**AZXD** · 03-14-2008, 02:22 PM

President Bush at the Gridiron Club's Annual Spring Dinner

XDConvert9mm · 03-14-2008, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ride the Lightning

In my relatively short time here I've noticed that there are a lot of people that really hate George W Bush and feel he is the worst POTUS we've had in a very long time. I would like to know specific reasons why. Not things like "He destroyed the economy" or "He led us to way". I want specifics like "He supported and signed xxxxx legislation to do xxxxxxxx". Anybody got anything, or does everyone just hate because the media tells them to?

In addition to the above, his use of "Signing Statements" to exempt himself and the office from legislation he passes makes me pretty sick. His expansion of the Executive Powers are among the most grievous in history.

Oh, add Warrantless Surveillance to the list (part of the Patriot Act, I know, but that one in particular deserves special mention).

FBI National Security letters being utilized over 4x as much as they were before 2000.

1.5 Billion dollar loans to Mexico to secure their Southern Borders while ignoring the torrent pouring over ours from this same debtor.

OK, where's the BP medication........

rimfire · 03-14-2008, 03:02 PM

Domestic Surveillance including:

PATRIOT Act abuse
NSA Domestic Surveillance
DHS Automated Targeting System
MATRIX - Now Defunct. States sued for participating
Total Information Awareness (TIA) - Now Defunct. Funding cancelled by congress.
CAPPS II/Secure Flight
Expanded use of NSLs
Protect America Act (FISA changes)

Out of control spending
Expanding government (DHS)
Overuse of the "states secrets" priviledge.
Watchlists (917,000 names at last count)
Torture - 2008 Intelligence Authorization Act veto
Rendition
US-VISIT
REAL ID Act
Stem Cell vetos
Operation Iraqi Freedom
Support for a "Gay" marriage admendment
Government money for "faith-based" programs
US Attorney firings
Exemptions from Privacy Act

Ride the Lightning · 03-14-2008, 03:14 PM

All these replies and I'll be gone all weekend. Hopefully this won't be too big to meaningfully discuss when I get back.

**AZXD** · 03-14-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ride the Lightning

All these replies and I'll be gone all weekend. Hopefully this won't be too big to meaningfully discuss when I get back.

Are you taking the list with you ???

03-14-2008, 12:47 PM	#1
Ride the Lightning XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 1,088	What has George Bush done wrong? In my relatively short time here I've noticed that there are a lot of people that really hate George W Bush and feel he is the worst POTUS we've had in a very long time. I would like to know specific reasons why. Not things like "He destroyed the economy" or "He led us to way". I want specifics like "He supported and signed xxxxx legislation to do xxxxxxxx". Anybody got anything, or does everyone just hate because the media tells them to?

03-14-2008, 12:58 PM	#2
cucamelsmd15 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Wake Forest, NC Posts: 3,446	Sure, why not: Patriot Act Military Comissions Act of 2006 Suspension of Habeas Corpus Total disregard to the Fourth Amendment Would support another AWB "Economic Stimulus" checks Open Borders That should be enough to get you started. __________________ Creo que debo empezar a aprender español Juan McAmnesty si va a ser Presidente. I have cast my vote and my political allegiance: No Confidence '08. Long live America!

03-14-2008, 01:53 PM	#4
AZXD XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 12,980	I'm not really that happy with some of the Exectutive Orders that shift the countries power structure. __________________ Voting for Obama is like putting a gun to your head and hoping he calls for its confiscation before you can pull the trigger - AZXD Investco Flags - Saved from Trash by McCain Another McCain gimmick... Etta Place That said, the flag is a symbol. It is not the United States. The United States is bigger than the flag... Etta Place

03-14-2008, 02:22 PM	#6
AZXD XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Valley of the GUN Posts: 12,980	President Bush at the Gridiron Club's Annual Spring Dinner __________________ Voting for Obama is like putting a gun to your head and hoping he calls for its confiscation before you can pull the trigger - AZXD Investco Flags - Saved from Trash by McCain Another McCain gimmick... Etta Place That said, the flag is a symbol. It is not the United States. The United States is bigger than the flag... Etta Place

03-14-2008, 03:02 PM	#8
rimfire XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 272	Domestic Surveillance including: PATRIOT Act abuse NSA Domestic Surveillance DHS Automated Targeting System MATRIX - Now Defunct. States sued for participating Total Information Awareness (TIA) - Now Defunct. Funding cancelled by congress. CAPPS II/Secure Flight Expanded use of NSLs Protect America Act (FISA changes) Out of control spending Expanding government (DHS) Overuse of the "states secrets" priviledge. Watchlists (917,000 names at last count) Torture - 2008 Intelligence Authorization Act veto Rendition US-VISIT REAL ID Act Stem Cell vetos Operation Iraqi Freedom Support for a "Gay" marriage admendment Government money for "faith-based" programs US Attorney firings Exemptions from Privacy Act __________________ If you're innocent, you shouldn't have to worry ... The only safeguard between yourself and unjustified prosecution and imprisonment is a thin, old piece of paper and people's willingness to uphold the words written on it. Please don't be under the mistaken assumption that innocence will protect you, or that the government isn't abusing your rights. Last edited by rimfire : 03-14-2008 at 03:11 PM.

03-14-2008, 01:44 PM	#3
jtkratzer XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lancaster Co., PA Posts: 16,291	I didn't care for the amount of spending devoted to the Medicare Part D program.

03-14-2008, 03:14 PM	#9
Ride the Lightning XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Broken Arrow, OK Posts: 1,088	All these replies and I'll be gone all weekend. Hopefully this won't be too big to meaningfully discuss when I get back.

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