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Old 03-12-2008, 09:22 AM   #21
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Just getting a little healthy debate going guys take it easy, no need to get all excited
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:26 AM   #22
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Just getting a little healthy debate going guys take it easy, no need to get all excited
But fantasy is not healthy debate. So you thought there was more meat on this bone, but it is bare. There is plenty of criticism here to the war and the administration, and the use of fear mongering, but the whole thing being an illusion is not worthy of debate. Sorry.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:29 AM   #23
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"The bone is bare"...well said!
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The comments are interesting.
If by "interesting" you mean insane, then yes, they are.

Funny how the conspiracy theorist types don't believe anything the government says, but are ready to blindly eat up everything anyone else puts out there.
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Funny how the conspiracy theorist types don't believe anything the government says, but are ready to blindly eat up everything anyone else puts out there.
It is also funny how they call the current administration "stupid" in one breath, and then want to belive thie "stupid" administration had the ability to mastermind something on the level of 9-11 in the next.
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Old 03-12-2008, 09:41 AM   #26
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I think something like this is just as controversial and adds fuel to the fire.
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If indeed Zarqawi's role was fabricated as part of the Pentagon's PSYOP, what is the accuracy of these media reports?

The internal military documents leaked to Washington Post confirm that the Pentagon is involved in an ongoing propaganda campaign which seeks to provide a face to the enemy. The purpose is to portray the enemy as a terrorist, to mislead public opinion.

Counterterrorism and war propaganda are intertwined. The propaganda apparatus feeds disinformation into the news chain. The objective is to present the terror groups as "enemies of America." responsible for countless atrocities in Iraq and around the World. The underlying objective is to galvanize public opinion in support of America's Middle East war agenda.
US military-intelligence has created it own terrorist organizations. In turn, it has developed a cohesive multibillion dollar counterterrorism program "to go after" these terrorist organizations. To reach its foreign policy objectives, the images of terrorism in the Iraqi war theater must remain vivid in the minds of the citizens, who are constantly reminded of the terrorist threat. The Iraqi resistance movement is described as terrorists led by Zarqawi.

The propaganda campaign using the Western media, presents the portraits of the leaders behind the terror network. In other words, at the level of what constitutes an "advertising" campaign, "it gives a face to terror."
The "war on terrorism" rests on the creation of one or more evil bogeymen, the terror leaders, Osama bin Laden, Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, et al, whose names and photos are presented ad nauseam in daily news reports.

Without Zarqawi and bin Laden, the "war on terrorism" would loose its raison d'ętre. The main casus belli is to wage a " war on terrorism".

The Pentagon documents leaked to the Washington Post regarding Zarqawi have revealed that Al Qaeda in Iraq is fabricated.

The suicide attacks in Iraq are indeed real, but who is behind them? There are indications that some of the suicide attacks could have been organized by the US-UK military and intelligence. (See references below pertaining to British Special Forces Soldiers caught Planting Bombs in Basra.)

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Pick up and read "Men Who Stare at Goats".

It will open your eyes about PsyOps, there role throughout history including Iraq and the CIA. The book gets a bit interesting (crazy) but definitely gives you something to think about.
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Man...the nonsense people will believe these days.

I bet this kind of stuff is EXACTLY what al-qaeda wants us to believe.

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Its certainly plausible. If the US government can create fake moon missions, its easy to create a fake terrorist organization.
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Man...the nonsense people will believe these days.

I bet this kind of stuff is EXACTLY what al-qaeda wants us to believe.

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