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Delija · 03-09-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by newKid

i see both of them. humbling.

Indeed....my family tree was probably cut about in half. Other families fared far worse.

I served as a prison guard in the IDF for just short of a year. I spoke daily to he prisoners.....truly disgusting and murderous excuses for human beings. My blood boils when I hear folks say that we should not support Israel. I could write a thousand pages on the topic, but the bottom line is humanity itself owes a homeland to the Israelis.

The criminals at Nuremberg were not only accused of "war crimes", but far worse..."crimes against humanity". I think that is appropriate.

Peace,
D.

retired · 03-10-2008, 12:59 AM

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Indeed....my family tree was probably cut about in half. Other families fared far worse.

I "only" lost a great uncle, his wife and son. I guess my family was "lucky."

That cartoonist is one of my favorites, but usually for his lighter strips. That one is certainly sobering.

Delija · 03-10-2008, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by retired

I "only" lost a great uncle, his wife and son. I guess my family was "lucky."

That cartoonist is one of my favorites, but usually for his lighter strips. That one is certainly sobering.

Yup, very lucky. But only in a relative sense....no luck in losing any family to murder. And yes, certainly sobering.

I posted the cartoon because I thought it was pretty timely with the noises coming out of Iran these days.

Peace,
D.

FrankRizzoXD40 · 03-10-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Delija

My blood boils when I hear folks say that we should not support Israel.

Folks like Ron Paul?

Frank

LUVMYSIGP225 · 03-10-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Delija

Indeed....my family tree was probably cut about in half. Other families fared far worse.

I served as a prison guard in the IDF for just short of a year. I spoke daily to he prisoners.....truly disgusting and murderous excuses for human beings. My blood boils when I hear folks say that we should not support Israel. I could write a thousand pages on the topic, but the bottom line is humanity itself owes a homeland to the Israelis.

The criminals at Nuremberg were not only accused of "war crimes", but far worse..."crimes against humanity". I think that is appropriate.

Peace,
D.

Can "non-Jews" join the IDF? I have long been a fan of the IDF, and after watching a Military Channel special on them the other day, I am a bigger fan.

Plus, they have lots of hot women, and their weapons are unparalled!!!!

Delija · 03-10-2008, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FrankRizzoXD40

Folks like Ron Paul?

Frank

Yes. And on other issues I agree with him. The world is a very complicated place with a zillion different issues. No two people can possibly agree on all of them.

As much as I may criticize GWB, I applaud his commitment to Israel. His dad....not so much! Certain obvious members of his cabinet were overtly anti-Israel and IMO, anti-Semitic. (If you recall history). And of course there was his old grandad, Hitler's buddy The Bush family and the Jews. - By Anne E. Kornblut - Slate Magazine

Peace,
D.

rtparso · 03-10-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LUVMYSIGP225

Can "non-Jews" join the IDF? I have long been a fan of the IDF, and after watching a Military Channel special on them the other day, I am a bigger fan.

Plus, they have lots of hot women, and their weapons are unparalled!!!!

Google is your friend.
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Since then however, the policy has been to restrict service in the armed forces to citizens of Israel, Jews as well as Christians, Moslems, Druze and others, and to non-Israeli Jews, descendants of a Jewish grandparent and the spouses of the aforementioned so as to avoid placing at risk persons who do not have this connection to Israel. In addition, the maximum enlistment date limit is the 23rd birthday for men and the 21th for women. Unfortunately no exception can be made.
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Mercmar · 03-10-2008, 06:40 PM

Wanna hear some Holocaust deniers in person? Visit your local John Birch Society meeting.

**DanTheEldest** · 03-10-2008, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Delija

My blood boils when I hear folks say that we should not support Israel. I could write a thousand pages on the topic, but the bottom line is humanity itself owes a homeland to the Israelis.

Peace,
D.

It's a banner day....we agree on something.

FrankRizzoXD40 · 03-10-2008, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DanTheEldest

It's a banner day....we agree on something.

I was thinking the same thing.

Frank

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Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,834	Wanna hear some Holocaust deniers in person? Visit your local John Birch Society meeting.