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Old 04-07-2007, 09:59 AM   #1
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SSP, N. American Union, NAFTA, CAFTA, Social Security, Foreign Ports, Mexican Trucks

While researching stuff related to this thread,
Impeach George W. Bush over North American Union agenda says Republican Presidential

I came up with enough stuff that I feel it warrants its own thread, so here goes.

Pursuing the 'North American' Agenda
Granted its a little old, but does show a pattern.

Then there's this line from
http://www.kcsmartport.com/ as stated in their brochure.


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In March 2005, Kansas City signed a cooperative pact with representatives from the Mexican State of Michoacan and representatives from Lazaro Cardenas to increase cargo volume between the two cities.
Followed by,
Truckers Unhappy With Plan For Mexican Trucks in U.S.


And a little hope
Trucking pilot program hits roadblocks

as people speak-out over

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Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters announced Feb. 23 a one-year pilot program to allow about 1,000 trucks from 100 Mexican companies to start hauling freight into the U.S., as soon as the end of April.
OK, so they meet the safety requirements, get a drive through because we trust the x-ray machines in Mexico because they along with the port expansion were funded by China. Oh, and collect how many U.S. trucking dollars?

Yea, I'm starting to get it. Maybe some of this conspiracy stuff is.................ALL ITS CRACKED UP TO BE.

Maybe this is why Ron Paul spoke up!!!!!!!


Another item to ponder.



Will the SSP provide the loophole?

Also, this site has further opinion and links of interest about SSP.

http://www.newcitizenship.net/labels/SSP.html

Call it a conspiracy if you must. But why all the secrecy and out of the loop (no congressional over-site) methodology?


Ron Paul has weighed in on the SSP as well.

Congressman: Superhighway
about North American Union
Paul says goal is common currency,
borderless travel, bigger bureaucracy


But this pretty much sets my view on the SSP issue.

THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
Mexico ambassador: We need N. American Union in 8 years
U.S. 'investment,' EU-style merger key to better relations, says diplomat


I am totally against it.

Oh and what the he^^ is this.

THE NEW WORLD DISORDER
N. American students
trained for 'merger'

10 universities participate in 'model Parliament'
in Mexico to simulate 'integration' of 3 nations

Granted these three are all from the same source, but .......



Go here
http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf also known as Building a North American Community
and search for these words
Implement the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico. This agreement would recognize payroll contributions to each other’s systems,thus preventing double taxation.

I hate to think that some of this mentality is driving the underlying aspects of what is now called the SSP.

If Totalization is an underlying aspect of the SSP, we need to stop it.
Or, how about this mentality:
THE NORTH AMERICAN COOPERATIVE SECURITY ACT, implementing some of the security provisions of the SPP plan, are now pending in the House and Senate. Here are the House and Senate versions:

H.R. 2672: North American Cooperative Security Act

S. 853: North American Cooperative Security Act

Notice these bills were introduced just shortly after the official launch of SPP in March of 2005 at the summit in Texas. The language in the bill is right in line with the goals of SPP.

So it would seem that SOME in Congress do, in fact, know exactly what is going on!

AND GUESS WHAT???? CONGRESSWOMAN KATHLEEN HARRIS (R-FL) AND SENATOR RICHARD LUGAR (R-IN), WHO INTRODUCED THE TWO BILLS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE BRANCHES OF THE CONGRESS, ARE BOTH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS WHERE THE WHOLE SPP AND NORTH AMERICAN COMMUNITY PLANS WERE HATCHED!!! COINCIDENCE?

Granted H.R. 2672 & S. 853 never became laws, but what of the underlying reasons for their introduction? Why would our elected officials push for these actions?
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Old 04-07-2007, 01:03 PM   #2
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This is my first time taking part in the political view....to my knowledge.
I was going to start a thread about this so called North American Union, and include the story about Mexican trucks. Looks like someone beat me to it.
For some reason this backdoor North American Union crap has gotten me disturbed more than any other dumb crap coming outta D.C.
I'm not exactly sure the details of these agreements, but if they do literally erase our borders between our countries....we might as well erase the Constitution too. I've had horrorible thoughts of us having to conform our Constitution to match up with Mexico's whatever they call it down there....and then to the Canadians..thus completing the union. Can you imagine??? How would you like to live under the combined laws of Mexico and Canada...our freedoms erased and made fit the laws of the others?
I'm sorry, but this type of crap to me is the the last straw....the flood of ppl coming across my border burns my ass enough...but talk of em taking away the soverignity(sp) of my country takes the cake. The fools in Washington going forward with such a thing, without our consent, proves the govt. conspiracy riff....
What's stupid also...don't the morons in Washington understand that if the borders get erased etc...we adopt new common laws between the 3 countries..so on and so forth....won't they then be out of a job as U.S lawmakers? They'll hafta give up their seats to some Canadians...and some Mexican "representatives"

I'd like to know how we can stop this crap...Uncle Sam workin behind our backs in the most extreme. I know it's bad to be anti-govt...talks about overthrowing...civil unrest etc....but come on.
Them over turning the Constitution...erasing our borders....all while doing it behind our backs is call for some major ass kicking. If they won't defend our border...I will....and I know I will have company.
If it takes me loading up my truck and heading to the border I'll do it...I have enough ammo to keep the fools at bay for awhile.
Civil freakin wars have broken out over crap like this....or am I just being "paranoid"
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FatMatt1981,
Thanks for looking/responding.
It does appear as though a group is sliding things past us and creating situations that circumvent the Constitution.

I am not sure where the Trans-Texas Corridor got it's numbers from, but the population increase they state in this video seems a little hyped up. So is this being used to promote the expansion? Can anyone from Texas weigh-in on this factor?
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This definitely bears watching. I don't think the SSP has crossed the line yet, but it definitely has the potential.

Thanks for posting the info.

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Yea, I've decided to look at this in-depth and will update this post as I run across additional information. It seems to fishy to leave alone.
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I've known about it for months....Lou Dobbs reported on it on CNN. I first saw it there......and he's continually kept up on it.
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When Do Bad Policies Become Treasonous?

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April 15, 2007 01:56 PM EST

That America's two most recent presidents, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, have been guilty of egregiously flawed and fallacious decisions and activities is obvious. However, at what point do bad policies and conduct become treasonous? At what point do we conclude that our country's Chief Executive has crossed the line of mere inanity or naïveté and has actually become a threat to our national security and survival?

Those who listened to my radio talk show when Bill Clinton was in office know how I daily chronicled what I believed were acts of treason. No, I am not talking about his numerous sexual affairs. I'm talking primarily about what became known as Chinagate.

There is a plethora of evidence to support the accusation that then-President Bill Clinton deliberately facilitated the transfer of military (including rocket and satellite) technology to Communist China in exchange for large donations via highly placed Chinese operatives. That, more than the Monica Lewinsky affair, should have been the basis of impeachment. However, the Republican majority in Congress chose to do absolutely nothing about Clinton's treasonous conduct in Chinagate. Now it is President George W. Bush who is pushing the envelope.

As I have already stated in this column, I believe an independent investigation should proceed aggressively in order to determine whether or not President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney deliberately manufactured evidence to support a preemptive invasion of Iraq. If it is proven they did, they should both be impeached.

However, I believe there is another area of malfeasance committed by G.W. Bush that is equal to anything Bill Clinton did: his determination to facilitate a Mexican invasion of the United States and the decision to merge America into a trilateral North American Community.

It is no hyperbole to say that Bush's infatuation with Mexican immigration and uniting the economy of the U.S. with those of Canada and Mexico threatens the sovereignty and independence of our country, not to mention our national security.

One former military analyst is quoted as saying, "We are under attack. Twenty million have already entered the country, and more are to come. And sadly, many of our leaders are siding with the invaders. They are willing to spend billions of dollars to deport foreigners from Iraq and defend Iraq's borders, but won't lift a finger to save the USA."

William Calhoun wrote, "We know that Hispanics in the Mexican military are helping Arab terrorists sneak into the United States. We know that many Mexican gangs have already made alliances with terrorist cells in India."
Calhoun continued by saying, "In short, Hispanics plan to retake the Southwest United States. Reconquista, is what they call it, and their aim is for Aztlan to live once again. As Mexican activist Ricky Sierra said, 'We are recolonizing America . . .. It is time for us to take back what is ours.'"

Not only has President Bush turned a blind eye to the gigantic national security risks posed by unfettered illegal immigration, he has become the most outspoken expeditor of illegal immigration.

For example, just recently, President Bush gave a directive to the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals demanding that a convicted Mexican rapist and murderer on death row be given another hearing. In what is obviously an attempt to grovel before and appease the Mexican government, Bush used an International Court of Justice ruling to justify this presidential intrusion into the State of Texas's judicial affairs.

The murderer's name is Jose Ernesto Medellin. He was one of six gang members convicted of brutally raping and killing two Houston teenagers Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena, who stumbled upon a violent gang initiation. But George W. Bush wants him taken off death row and given another hearing.

Thankfully, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has no intention of being bullied by this rogue president. Judge Michael Keasler wrote that Bush "exceeded his constitutional authority by intruding into the independent powers of the judiciary." Presiding Judge Sharon Keller said that Bush's "unprecedented, unnecessary, and intrusive exercise of power over the Texas court system cannot be supported by the foreign policy authority conferred on him by the United States Constitution." (Source: The Fort Worth Star-Telegram)

Remember, this is the same president that, at the behest of the Mexican government, turned the U.S. Attorney's office loose on two U.S. Border Patrol agents and a Texas Deputy Sheriff. According to Jerome Corsi, "Investigators had no plans to bring charges against Texas Sheriff's Deputy Gilmer Hernandez until the Mexican government intervened and demanded it, the officer's supervisor told WND.

"Sheriff Don Letsinger of Rocksprings, Texas, said the Texas Rangers were not going to recommend prosecution, but federal law enforcement took over the case in response to the Mexican government's intervention."
I trust that readers are also aware that in continuing to accommodate illegal immigration and placate the Mexican government that promotes it, President Bush is ignoring the fact that, according to Congressman Steve King (R-Iowa), illegal aliens murder twelve Americans each day. That equates to more Americans being killed by illegal aliens each year than have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan to date.

Now we hear that "the Bush administration is fully committed to beginning within weeks a pilot test that will allow Mexican trucks to operate freely across the U.S." (Source: World Net Daily) Think of the thousands of U.S. workers that will ultimately be displaced by Bush's decision to launch Mexican trucks all across America. Not to mention the potential safety and security problems that will ensue.

I ask the question again: At what point do bad policies and conduct become treasonous? At what point do we conclude that our country's Chief Executive has crossed the line of mere inanity or naïveté and has actually become a threat to our national security and survival? I believe Bill Clinton crossed that line. I believe that George W. Bush has also crossed that line.

The problem is, hardly anyone in Washington, D.C., has the guts to do anything about it. For one thing, many of our congressmen and senators from both major parties are equally culpable in both Clinton's and Bush's chicanery.
Let's face it, folks: we are living under a government that, regardless of whether Republicans or Democrats control it, is sated with corruption. It's time we admitted it. No! It's time we did something about it. I hope and pray that the American people will wake up and realize that they have the authority and power to throw off this bunch of scoundrels. It's called the ballot box, and we need to use it to thoroughly clean house. And we need to do it while we still can.

As Winston Churchill said, "If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
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Well some of the media are starting to see the light. The country truly is being undermined via intentional acts of non-aggression that far exceed what is occuring elsewhere in the world. When will this stop, but more importantly, who will stop it.

I hope this becomes a decisive issue early on in the debate process. Because a lot of people are not aware that this is quietly happening.
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a small handful of Americans have started to or have been woke up. This small handful of Americans is seeing that we are headed in a wrong direction. We see the treasonous behavior of our politicians and those knowingly supporting their treason. These demonize this small handful of Americans and the Amerikans that are still asleep parrot their demonizing comments and look at them as paranoid militant domestic terrorist spreading misguided conspiracy theorys.

you know what is really sad....

Those that are asleep will happily usher in this new era, only seeing the proposed benefits and a possible perceived measure of safety this new large boarder.......

When this happens, what will this small handful of Americans do???????
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Whats disturbing is they are using the exact same back door tactics as was used in Europe to implement the EU. We have a shameful history of implementing unconstitutional tactics and legislation straight from Europe. For example the 68 GCA was patterned after the NAZI Weapons Law of 1938.
http://www.hackcanada.com/blackcrawl...nd_nazis_1.txt
http://www.jpfo.org/cs34.htm It doesn`t get any less American than that.
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April 16 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush, with the backing of more than 50 business groups, is mounting an all-out effort to win support among skeptical Republican lawmakers for an immigration overhaul that may be his last chance for a domestic achievement.
Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff are meeting lawmakers weekly to build support for a plan that would combine a path to citizenship for undocumented workers, which most House Republicans oppose, with stricter enforcement. With the same frequency, Gutierrez is sitting down to plot strategy with business groups, which are also lobbying lawmakers.
Winning Republican support is critical because House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, told Bush earlier this year she won't bring the immigration legislation to a vote unless the president delivers a significant number of House Republicans to join with the Democrats to pass it.
With Bush politically weakened by the war in Iraq and his popularity near record lows, his effort is ``much more about convincing and cajoling'' lawmakers than enforcing party discipline, says Representative Mark Kirk of Illinois, who leads the 40-member Tuesday Group of self-described moderate Republicans. ``I don't think he can push them into much at this point.''
To the Rescue?
That's where the business groups come in. The Essential Worker Immigration Coalition, a Washington-based umbrella organization that includes more than 50 trade groups and companies, says it has sent representatives to discuss immigration with all 55 newly elected House members.
OK, uhmmm, this is starting to get under my skin. Now they are reporting what we always new. The lobbyists are rallying, but in this case it sounds almost like they have been invited by the President to coerce and entice an underhanded plan.

But the plan is not complete. Read this!!!!!
Tax Returns Rise for Immigrants in U.S. Illegally
By NINA BERNSTEIN
Published: April 16, 2007

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With the tax deadline approaching, illegal immigrants are sending in federal returns in what appear to be record numbers despite fears heightened by recent immigration raids around the country.
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The increase in filings comes amid talk of an immigration overhaul, with some proposals introduced in Congress linking amnesty to the payment of taxes. Many illegal immigrants showing up at tax preparation offices around the country say they hope that filing a return will create a paper trail that could lead to citizenship one day.
The conspiracy continues. This is being done to show they have been in the country and are thus eligible for everything once Bush finishes screwing up our immigration laws.

So who is in charge of our country and why don't we hand deliver the return along with a trip home. I think this is the right thing to do in this case. As for the lobbyists .........................Why! Why! Why!
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