What a sorry state of affairs

[LUVMYSIGP225]

I think the liberal way is to let in all the third world scum through the southern border, and then give them free healthcare while you and I are at work paying $100 a week to cover our families. F$%K THAT!!!!!

[bd]

Originally Posted by LUVMYSIGP225

BD-

I believe in helping children. We also must not promote laziness and indiscriminate breeding. Why did this mother have a child if she could not afford to care for him? You will say that maybe she could afford it when she had him. I am willing to bet $1000 she couldn't. Here we go back to my case for compulsory sterilization. I tell you what. I will meet you half way. Give him the government handout. Then, child Services should have taken the kid and his brother away from their mom, sterilized her so that she is no longer irresponsible, and put them in a caring home. Heck, I will give him the $80.00. But, do not promote their behavior with handouts. My kid needs dental, too, this month. It will get into a lot of dough. Insurance will give me a quick grand as the maximum. I sure would like it if the Government threw me the other couple grand.

And don't compare income levels. I grew up poor, and I got off my a$$ and went to college and paid for it with the G.I. Bill because I volunteered to serve my country. I now have alot because I WORKED FOR IT. NO HANDOUTS!!

You can do anything with motivation. Give one of them a handout, and it encourages more of the same.

Oh, and let me edit this.....You are right, BD. Spending on the war is too high. Cut it and give the money to secure our borders and to education, where it should go. An investment in our future.

Is it called a handout when it saves the life of a 12 year old?

bd

[bd]

Originally Posted by RuffRidr

Why don't you go down to the local dentist office and offer to pay for all of the hard cases that come in and can't afford service?

You could single hadedly eliminate a lot of "federal cases"

--RuffRidr

It's not going to bother me for the government to give $80.00 in taxpayer's money to save a life ---- especially when it will save $250,000 in taxpayer's money when the kid has to go to the hospital and then we have to pay to bury him.

Does that not seem logical to you? Would you give 80 bucks to save a quarter million?


bd

[LUVMYSIGP225]

Originally Posted by bd

Is it called a handout when it saves the life of a 12 year old?

bd

BD-

I am not so sure that I am at odds with you about saving a child's life. I love kids, and feel bad when I see abused and neglected children. It is probably why I volunteer so much time to reading programs and children's benefits. It is not his fault that he is where he is. It is not his fault that his mom is a piece of excrement. Ok, let's save his life. More money for children.

How do we deter the parents from breeding? How do we penalize the parents?

[Zinji]

Originally Posted by bd

It's not going to bother me for the government to give $80.00 in taxpayer's money to save a life ---- especially when it will save $250,000 in taxpayer's money when the kid has to go to the hospital and then we have to pay to bury him.

Does that not seem logical to you? Would you give 80 bucks to save a quarter million?


bd

Well there you have it - bd sure as hell isn't going to give up $80 of HIS own hard-earned cash to save a life. It's the government's job to do it.

[bd]

Originally Posted by Zinji

Well there you have it - bd sure as hell isn't going to give up $80 of HIS own hard-earned cash to save a life. It's the government's job to do it.

Einstein,

Where does the government get its money?

bd

[bd]

Originally Posted by LUVMYSIGP225

How do we deter the parents from breeding? How do we penalize the parents?

Well it would probably have to be some sort of government sponsored program.....so there you go.

bd

[LUVMYSIGP225]

Originally Posted by bd

Well it would probably have to be some sort of government sponsored program.....so there you go.

bd

Well, maybe a government mandated sterlization program would be a return on the investment by weeding out these types of people over the next few generations. In the long run it would reduce the cost to the government. Better than promoting these people to behave in this manner.

[Zinji]

Originally Posted by bd

Einstein,

Where does the government get its money?

bd

Taxes... Duh!

But since the current administration is obviously spending tax dollars on frivolous things, why don't you go over and above the FICA numbers on your checkstub and put your discretionary income where your mouth is.

[FrankRizzoXD40]

#1. The government spends too much money--that's obvious. They spend too much money at all levels. Which areas are should get priority and which shouldn't is another debate.

#2. One of the responsibilities of government is to defend the homeland. Entitlements and handouts are NOT one of government's primary responsibilities. Perhaps it has become that way, but as NMCB3 (while we disagree on some issues) will attest, the the founders never intended for the government to rob billions of dollars from us each year to redistribute to other people in the form of "handouts".

#3. As bd has demonstrated, one tactic of the left is to use people that you cannot attack as the symbols or "poster-children" of a cause. For example, most people will not want to say anything bad about a 12 year old kid who died. So he uses that to defend more government handouts, because nobody will dare criticize that case. I mean, come on, "he's a poor defenseless young child. HOW COULD ANY of you argue that the government shouldn't have stepped in??? You guys are cruel and awful for saying that the government shouldn't have helped! Are you saying that he DESERVED to die????" The list of endless comments from leftist groups goes on and on.....

The 9/11 widows are used by the left to protest the administration's handling of the war--who would dare criticze them?!?!? Anyone who did was smeared by the left and the MSM.

Democrats actively recruited disabled veterans to run for political office--who would DARE talk bad about them!?!?! I mean, they are disabled and they fought for our country!!

When people criticize illegal aliens, the ALCU throws images at us of little immigrant children starving to death.

The reason that these images are used is to invoke our emotions and make us give-in to more government handouts.

If you STILL don't believe me, look at the ads that the brady campaign runs against guns. They always use cases of little children who were accidentally shot to get us to justify that it is the government's job to impose stricter gun laws. I mean, with several cases of children accidentally killed by guns, who in their right mind would argue AGAINST child safety locks and other unconstitutional gun laws

Frank