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Cryogaijin · 02-17-2007, 06:27 AM

On one side you have dreamy eyed stoners, ascribing mythical qualities to the humble cannibus plant. "Its seeds produce an oil that is a drop in replacement or diesel" "It produces the strongest natural rope!" "It can be used for supperior paper than wood pulp. . ."

On the other side you have intolerant iconoclasts who either say "It is illegal for a reason!" and can't honestly say why it is illegal, or want to keep it illegal due to interests in the paper, alcohol, or tobacco industries.

The real problem that exists is that marijuana is such a taboo subject in some circles that the research that needs to be done on it is not being done for fear of the "WoD" angle.

Glah.

TxPete68 · 02-17-2007, 07:22 AM

I gotta agree with you, I just don't understand it. I've never smoked pot, so I can't really say what it's like, (not "holier than thou", just never really had the desire to). But I don't really see the difference between pot and alcohol/tobacco. To have them legal and pot illegal, seems hypocritical to me.

Perhaps it's b/c if they legalized marijuana, they would have to change the ATF to ATM, and that acromym is already taken.

Pete

**PackerfanXD** · 02-17-2007, 07:35 AM

I don't consider pot to be a drug.

**einheit 13** · 02-17-2007, 07:50 AM

Though I do not smoke pot, nor do I drink 'regularly', I feel it is an 'attitude adjuster' no more harmful than drinking.....dole it out in pre rolled cigarettes.

**Old School** · 02-17-2007, 07:53 AM

If the FED cannot tax it, it is illegal. I think pot should be legal, although I don't smoke. It makes people lazy, I have seen that many times over. While they sleep, others can work and make money.

**PackerfanXD** · 02-17-2007, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by einheit 13

.....dole it out in pre rolled cigarettes.

"Yeah, I'll take a pack of Jamacian 100's please".

**Frenchy** · 02-17-2007, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old School

If the FED cannot tax it, it is illegal. I think pot should be legal, although I don't smoke. It makes people lazy, I have seen that many times over. While they sleep, others can work and make money.

I agree with that in respect to chronic users and abusers, but the typical recreational smoker does not suffer from that, IMO.
I also believe that the legalization of pot would have an impact on the more dangerous drugs such as Meth.

Darth Yhwh · 02-17-2007, 08:06 AM

I say legalize it. I'd drink a lot less and, as a result, save a lot more money.

**Houseboat** · 02-17-2007, 08:14 AM

I started out smoking pot at a very early age,and then found the DEMON RUM. As I got older and wiser I had decided to pull myself away from a this certain addiction.And now as a grown man I find myself only spending good money on Flashy XD's and the like ... Yes I have overcome many obstacles in my life but cant seem to kick that GUN BUG.. Please send money to help get the Monkey off my back

TeflonKid · 02-17-2007, 09:32 AM

The drug war has become an economic necessity. The main reason there hasn't been federal legislation proposed is no politician wants to be responsible for that much damage to our economy.

The figures are that somewhere around 40% of prison inamates are non violent drug offenders. Figure that as if drugs where made illegal that 40% of our law enforcment and prison employee's would no longer need a job. The companies that supply equipment to law enforcement would have their income cut by 40%. DEA would see a much larger layoff. Other goverment lawenforcment would likewise see layoffs. Border patrol, military spending in south america etc etc.

If regulated it would take a decade or so for those jobs to switch over to that area. Also a private sector business of some kind would undoubtable arise to feed the demand for drugs but that takes time.

It would only be a very short term hit to our economy but what politician wants to be in office when the economy goes south? Even if it is a short term speed bump and even if it leeds to billions less in goverment spending that can be used for other "vital" social programs?

I am a Libratarian by nature and as such wish to see all my liberties taken back. But i'm realistic enough to see why even the poloticians that suposedly support our view have been leary of acting on that beleif. When it comes to politics, I was taught to always follow the money and the aswer would be there.

02-17-2007, 06:27 AM	#1
Cryogaijin XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 277	*Pot Politics pis me off.** On one side you have dreamy eyed stoners, ascribing mythical qualities to the humble cannibus plant. "Its seeds produce an oil that is a drop in replacement or diesel" "It produces the strongest natural rope!" "It can be used for supperior paper than wood pulp. . ." On the other side you have intolerant iconoclasts who either say "It is illegal for a reason!" and can't honestly say why it is illegal, or want to keep it illegal due to interests in the paper, alcohol, or tobacco industries. The real problem that exists is that marijuana is such a taboo subject in some circles that the research that needs to be done on it is not being done for fear of the "WoD" angle. Glah. Last edited by Ed Ely : 02-17-2007 at 09:14 AM. Reason: More inline with the family type forum.

02-17-2007, 07:22 AM	#2
TxPete68 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 347	I gotta agree with you, I just don't understand it. I've never smoked pot, so I can't really say what it's like, (not "holier than thou", just never really had the desire to). But I don't really see the difference between pot and alcohol/tobacco. To have them legal and pot illegal, seems hypocritical to me. Perhaps it's b/c if they legalized marijuana, they would have to change the ATF to ATM, and that acromym is already taken. Pete __________________ "One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that 'violence begets violence.' I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure--and in some cases I have--that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy." - Col. Jeff Cooper A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions.

02-17-2007, 07:35 AM	#3
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02-17-2007, 07:50 AM	#4
einheit 13 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia, C.S.A. Posts: 5,531	Though I do not smoke pot, nor do I drink 'regularly', I feel it is an 'attitude adjuster' no more harmful than drinking.....dole it out in pre rolled cigarettes. __________________ Die Erde wird das sanfte erben! (the earth shall inherit the meek!) “It is the lack of will power, and not the lack of arms which render us incapable of offering any serious resistance.”

02-17-2007, 07:53 AM	#5
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,580	If the FED cannot tax it, it is illegal. I think pot should be legal, although I don't smoke. It makes people lazy, I have seen that many times over. While they sleep, others can work and make money. __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

02-17-2007, 08:06 AM	#8
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02-17-2007, 08:14 AM	#9
Houseboat XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 604	I am an addict''' I started out smoking pot at a very early age,and then found the DEMON RUM. As I got older and wiser I had decided to pull myself away from a this certain addiction.And now as a grown man I find myself only spending good money on Flashy XD's and the like ... Yes I have overcome many obstacles in my life but cant seem to kick that GUN BUG.. Please send money to help get the Monkey off my back __________________ www.gun-works.com www.tennesseeholstercompany.com Gun-Works.com is wholly owned subsidiary of Tennessee Holster Company, LLC Quality Leather Holsters for your XDs

02-17-2007, 09:32 AM	#10
TeflonKid XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 61	The drug war has become an economic necessity. The main reason there hasn't been federal legislation proposed is no politician wants to be responsible for that much damage to our economy. The figures are that somewhere around 40% of prison inamates are non violent drug offenders. Figure that as if drugs where made illegal that 40% of our law enforcment and prison employee's would no longer need a job. The companies that supply equipment to law enforcement would have their income cut by 40%. DEA would see a much larger layoff. Other goverment lawenforcment would likewise see layoffs. Border patrol, military spending in south america etc etc. If regulated it would take a decade or so for those jobs to switch over to that area. Also a private sector business of some kind would undoubtable arise to feed the demand for drugs but that takes time. It would only be a very short term hit to our economy but what politician wants to be in office when the economy goes south? Even if it is a short term speed bump and even if it leeds to billions less in goverment spending that can be used for other "vital" social programs? I am a Libratarian by nature and as such wish to see all my liberties taken back. But i'm realistic enough to see why even the poloticians that suposedly support our view have been leary of acting on that beleif. When it comes to politics, I was taught to always follow the money and the aswer would be there.

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