Pot Politics piss me off.

[Yuppicide]

Originally Posted by far_fast

I wouldn’t smoke a joint for 50,000 dollars

Hell, for Fifty Grand I'd Eat it, pass it through my bowels, and wear it as a hat!!!


Man, just think about all the guns you could buy with $50,000!!!!

[amishclark]

i'd like to smoke a $50,000 joint...big ol' bob marley spliff...

[far_fast]

Originally Posted by Fishing73

No one should deny me to do what I want to do with my own body, as long as I don’t hurt anyone else.


I agree! As long as it does not hurt anybody else. One problem I see with making all drugs legal is that most people who take hard core drugs end up commiting crimes to support their habbit. Which in return harms others.

so you see the destinction..

accept one, punish the other.

plus, that problem wouldnt grow by legalization. I'd like anyone here to say that they would run out and buy a big bag of heroin the second it became legal just because now there were no legal barriers.

I believe Michael Badnarik or some other Libertarian had a humorous theory on that, called something like "the mommy theory", about people beeing so conditioned to obey the government that they are afraid of freedom.
Kinda like "oh god, we have to have a bed time, because if not, we'd probably never go to bed and never sleep!"

[Yuppicide]

Originally Posted by Fishing73

One problem I see with making all drugs legal is that most people who take hard core drugs end up commiting crimes to support their habbit. Which in return harms others.

Then how come there aren't more alcoholics robbing liquer stores to get drunk?

[amishclark]

violent crimes related to drugs, imho, are only committed because of the illegality of said drugs. there are two ways to eliminate the criminal element, as i see it. the first, prohibition, is not working; it was proven ineffective with alcohol, and if you can't see that it isn't working now (i know...a lot of double negatives...), you're blind. the other way is to legalize (and perhaps tax, regulate, whatever) drugs. my personal stance is that anything that is not chemically altered should be legal (i.e. pot, hash, opium, raw coca, mushrooms, etc. NOT processed coke, heroin, meth, etc.). simple legal distinction...

[Jettubby]

But the law enforcement community is convinced that MJ is a pathway drug. My buddy works undercover narcotics and even he says that pot should be legalized. He goes on to say that most LEOs believe that it's a pathway drug which means using it leads to harsher stuff. He said that he personally can't find any evidence in his years of work that it does.

The government doesn't like to say any government program was a mistake. That would be admitting failure. While the legalized real drug crime lords (the pharmaceutical companies) keep pushing stuff that is far more hazardous, addictive, and expensive than pot; we'll keep giving people hard time for possession of a weed.

[retired]

Teflonkid, I believe you are way off base on your comment. Your 40% figure for inmates may be correct (tho you have not provided the evidence for that), I feel pretty safe in stating a comensurate 40% in le would not be laid off.

Most departments are below staffing allowances. I know my former dept. is short 1000 deputies. Many departments give bonuses to persuade officers/deputies to leave their dept. and come to theirs. They would rather have an experienced officer than spend the money to put one thru an academy and wait a full year before they are out on their own, still fairly inexperienced.

If those 40% of non-violent offenders were released, leos would still have more than plenty to do with all of the murders, gangbangers, domestic violence, etc. Those empty cells will fill right back up.

[beardman2]

Originally Posted by Yuppicide

Hell, for Fifty Grand I'd Eat it, pass it through my bowels, and wear it as a hat!!!


Man, just think about all the guns you could buy with $50,000!!!!

for 50 grand I'd smoke your hat!

[vinnie]

I got a couple of ideas on this...

1. No politician wants to run with this because there is a good chance they won't get reelected. I think it's largely a political game or lack there of.

2. The government would have a hard time justifying having spent hundreds of millions (probably more) fighting marijuana in addition to the cost, etc of prosecuting those offenders. It is easier to just continue doing the same and say it is working.

3. I don't use it so personally, I could care less if it is legalized, but I have never heard of people smoking weed and then commiting crime (successfully). I think it is not nearly as bad for you as alcohol and compared to the amount smoked, probably cigarettes.

4. I don't know of any LE that take it seriously. The only time I have seen it not blown off was if they were trying to make something stick, not because of the offense itself.

Oh well, just my $.02

[Gonefission]

Originally Posted by vinnie

3. I don't use it so personally, I could care less if it is legalized, but I have never heard of people smoking weed and then commiting crime (successfully). I think it is not nearly as bad for you as alcohol and compared to the amount smoked, probably cigarettes.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabi...is_myth9.shtml Personal experiences tell me that there are no withdrawal symptoms and you can give up weed and not think twice about it. I doubt very highly it's the drug is addictive like tobacco. People don't steal

The only thing pot heads like to do is grab some snacks and watch tv/listen to music. Pot heads don't have any great ambitions to go out and do stuff. They are very laid back and sloth like.



There are more myths than facts out there when it comes to Marijuana and THC. I would say the majority of people making the laws don't have the facts, just the myths.