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Old 02-15-2007, 10:58 AM   #1
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Gun stance of presidential hopefuls

I thought it would be good to have a thread discussing what politicians think about guns. Obviously Barack and Hillary are anti, although they may say otherwise, they are. Don't believe anything else. I believe Bill Richardson may be supportive. You can pretty much put Edwards in with Hillary and Barack Osama.

I have heard that Rudy is actually somewhat antigun, however, I am not sure. Well, let me scratch that. Actually I am pretty sure he is because he instituted a lot of gun control measures when he was mayor in NY. McCain I am not totally sure, although he is probably pretty favorable to gun owners. I think Mitt is in about the same boat, although he was governor of a very liberal state, so that may say something there.

Please ring in with your opinions and knowledge on this issue. This is something very important to all of us here for the upcoming election.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:05 AM   #2
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Statement by Romney

Will support assault weapons bill and Brady Bill. (Aug 1994)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mitt_Romney.htm#Gun_Control


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McCain I am not totally sure, although he is probably pretty favorable to gun owners. I think Mitt is in about the same boat, although he was governor of a very liberal state, so that may say something there.

Please ring in with your opinions and knowledge on this issue. This is something very important to all of us here for the upcoming election.

Here's the GOA's opinion of McCain (it's pretty long and detailed):

http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm

I'll summarize: they don't like him.
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Ok, I guess I was wrong on McCain. I should know more about since I live in AZ, but I haven't lived here long.

From where I stand, I am not really seeing any people who really stand out that are going to support gun owners rights.
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Ok, I guess I was wrong on McCain. I should know more about since I live in AZ, but I haven't lived here long.

From where I stand, I am not really seeing any people who really stand out that are going to support gun owners rights.
Check out Tom Tancredo. He has an "A" record from the NRA.

http://www.teamtancredo.com/

http://www.teamtancredo.com/issues.php

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I gotta say, the more I look into the candidates, the more I like Duncan Hunter.

Voted YES on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers.

A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. A YES vote would:
  • Prohibit individuals from filing a qualified civil liability action
  • Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or drug-trafficking crime
  • Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
  • Dismiss of all civil liability actions pending on the date of enactment
  • Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-534 on Oct 20, 2005
Voted YES on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse.

Vote to pass a bill that would prohibit liability lawsuits from being brought against gun manufacturers and dealers based on the criminal misuse of firearms. The bill would also block these actions from being brought up against gun trade organizations and against ammunition makers and sellers. The measure would apply immediately to any pending cases. Several specific exceptions to the ban exist. This includes civil suits would be allowed against a maker or dealer who "knowingly and willfully violated" state or federal laws in the selling or marketing of a weapon. Design and manufacturing defect lawsuits are also permitted when weapons are "used as intended.
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill HR 1036 ; vote number 2003-124 on Apr 9, 2003
Voted YES on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1.

Vote to pass a bill requiring anyone who purchases a gun at a gun show to go through an instant background check which must be completed within 24 hours [instead of 72 hours].
Reference: Bill introduced by McCollum, R-FL; Bill HR 2122 ; vote number 1999-244 on Jun 18, 1999
Rated A+ by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record.

Hunter scores A+ by NRA on pro-gun rights policies

While widely recognized today as a major political force and as America's foremost defender of Second Amendment rights, the National Rifle Association (NRA) has, since its inception, been the premier firearms education organization in the world. But our successes would not be possible without the tireless efforts and countless hours of service our nearly three million members have given to champion Second Amendment rights and support NRA programs.
While widely recognized today as a major political force and as America's foremost defender of Second Amendment rights, the National Rifle Association (NRA) has, since its inception, been the premier firearms education organization in the world. But our successes would not be possible without the tireless efforts and countless hours of service our nearly three million members have given to champion Second Amendment rights and support NRA programs. The following ratings are based on lifetime voting records on gun issues and the results of a questionaire sent to all Congressional candidates; the NRA assigned a letter grade (with A+ being the highest and F being the lowest).
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I gotta say, the more I look into the candidates, the more I like Duncan Hunter.

Voted YES on prohibiting product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers.

A bill to prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages, injunctive or other relief resulting from the misuse of their products by others. A YES vote would:
  • Prohibit individuals from filing a qualified civil liability action
  • Exempt lawsuits brought against individuals who knowingly transfer a firearm that will be used to commit a violent or drug-trafficking crime
  • Exempt lawsuits against actions that result in death, physical injury or property damage due solely to a product defect
  • Dismiss of all civil liability actions pending on the date of enactment
  • Prohibit the manufacture, import, sale or delivery of armor piercing ammunition
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill S 397 ; vote number 2005-534 on Oct 20, 2005
Voted YES on prohibiting suing gunmakers & sellers for gun misuse.

Vote to pass a bill that would prohibit liability lawsuits from being brought against gun manufacturers and dealers based on the criminal misuse of firearms. The bill would also block these actions from being brought up against gun trade organizations and against ammunition makers and sellers. The measure would apply immediately to any pending cases. Several specific exceptions to the ban exist. This includes civil suits would be allowed against a maker or dealer who "knowingly and willfully violated" state or federal laws in the selling or marketing of a weapon. Design and manufacturing defect lawsuits are also permitted when weapons are "used as intended.
Reference: Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act; Bill HR 1036 ; vote number 2003-124 on Apr 9, 2003
Voted YES on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1.

Vote to pass a bill requiring anyone who purchases a gun at a gun show to go through an instant background check which must be completed within 24 hours [instead of 72 hours].
Reference: Bill introduced by McCollum, R-FL; Bill HR 2122 ; vote number 1999-244 on Jun 18, 1999
Rated A+ by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun rights voting record.

Hunter scores A+ by NRA on pro-gun rights policies

While widely recognized today as a major political force and as America's foremost defender of Second Amendment rights, the National Rifle Association (NRA) has, since its inception, been the premier firearms education organization in the world. But our successes would not be possible without the tireless efforts and countless hours of service our nearly three million members have given to champion Second Amendment rights and support NRA programs.
While widely recognized today as a major political force and as America's foremost defender of Second Amendment rights, the National Rifle Association (NRA) has, since its inception, been the premier firearms education organization in the world. But our successes would not be possible without the tireless efforts and countless hours of service our nearly three million members have given to champion Second Amendment rights and support NRA programs. The following ratings are based on lifetime voting records on gun issues and the results of a questionaire sent to all Congressional candidates; the NRA assigned a letter grade (with A+ being the highest and F being the lowest).
Thanks for bringing his name up again. I was going to post about him, but I couldn't remember his name.

Mike Huckabee is also another.

Supports self-defense and `castle doctrine'

Gov. Mike Huckabee said that he would support legislation in Arkansas for a law like one passed in Florida last year to protect citizens who use deadly force in self-defense against criminal prosecution and civil liability. Huckabee told a caller to his monthly radio show that he has a permit to carry a concealed weapon and believes "there is an absolute right that people have to protect themselves and even their property."

During the show, a caller asked the governor what he thought of Florida's so-called "Castle Doctrine." Passed last year, the law states that any person has the right to "stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm." The name of the law is drawn from the adage that a man's home is his castle. "Personally, I think it's the way it ought to be," Huckabee said. "We ought to have the right to protect ourselves." Source: Rob Moritz, Arkansas News Bureau Jan 5, 2006 Allow concealed carry Indicate which principles you support concerning gun issues.
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Ok there's two I like. Of course this is not the only issue I care about, but I believe it is one that is very near and dear to most of us here. And obviously, democrats are going to come up lacking in this department.
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Yeah, as much as I give my left nut, (well maybe not mine but somebody's) to have Hunter nominated, I really think it is going to come down to Rudy, Mitt, McCain and perhaps Newt.

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As much as I agree with legislation which protects manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits in principle.I'm actually against this type of legislation because its unconstitutional.The founders charged the states with dealing with civil liability issues not the federal government. This legislation simply gives the feds more illegal power then they already have, thus making it more likely that it will ultimately be used against us in the future. Giving the feds additional power is not in anyones long term interests. As usual something that appears to be beneficial is actually just another federal power grab.Suing manufacturers for a legally produced non defective product is ludicrous. The blame should be put on the criminals where it belongs..But empowering the federal government above and beyond their constitutional limits is not the answer.I want a president who actually upholds the Constitution.
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