Gun stance of presidential hopefuls

[DanTheEldest]

Originally Posted by longtalltechsan

Ok, I guess I was wrong on McCain. I should know more about since I live in AZ, but I haven't lived here long.

No apology necessary. You wouldn't know much about his less-attractive side with the way he's been the darling of the media pretty much since he lost to W. I don't like the man personally or as my senator; I think he's got some serious anger and bitterness issues (which are forgiveable to a certain extent in a five-year POW), and I don't like the way he's gone to the other side on issues when we really needed some senior party leadership to hold a cohesive front.

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by NMCB3

As much as I agree with legislation which protects manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits in principle.I'm actually against this type of legislation because its unconstitutional.The founders charged the states with dealing with civil liability issues not the federal government. This legislation simply gives the feds more illegal power then they already have, thus making it more likely that it will ultimately be used against us in the future. Giving the feds additional power is not in anyones long term interests. As usual something that appears to be beneficial is actually just another federal power grab.Suing manufacturers for a legally produced non defective product is ludicrous. The blame should be put on the criminals where it belongs..But empowering the federal government above and beyond their constitutional limits is not the answer.I want a president who actually upholds the Constitution.

Exactly which legislation are you talking about? Some of the bills that Hunter voted for and against?

Frank

[NevJohn]

Originally Posted by FrankRizzoXD40

Huckabee told a caller to his monthly radio show that he has a permit to carry a concealed weapon and believes "there is an absolute right that people have to protect themselves and even their property."

During the show, a caller asked the governor what he thought of Florida's so-called "Castle Doctrine." Passed last year, the law states that any person has the right to "stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm." The name of the law is drawn from the adage that a man's home is his castle. "Personally, I think it's the way it ought to be," Huckabee said. "We ought to have the right to protect ourselves." Source: Rob Moritz, Arkansas News Bureau Jan 5, 2006 Allow concealed carry Indicate which principles you support concerning gun issues.

• Allow citizens to carry concealed guns.

Frank

If Mike Huckabee would change his stance on immigration, he would be my vote. Until he "wakes up" on that issue, I will have to decline. Otherwise I like his stances.

[nickb]

Hunter has been pretty solid on the conservative side. But he is a national unknown. I just hope he can get some media traction. We need someone to keep the donkeys from taking total control. Otherwise we'll be a socialist nation quicker than you can say oot.

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by NevJohn

If Mike Huckabee would change his stance on immigration, he would be my vote. Until he "wakes up" on that issue, I will have to decline. Otherwise I like his stances.

What is his stance on immigration? I've never looked it up. I guess ill have to look into that.

Frank

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by nickb

Hunter has been pretty solid on the conservative side. But he is a national unknown. I just hope he can get some media traction. We need someone to keep the donkeys from taking total control. Otherwise we'll be a socialist nation quicker than you can say oot.

Same thing can be said about Tom Tancredo.

Frank

[hacker15]

The sorry truth is, none of the guys that support the things we stand for will be in the final race. You just know that the Democrats will pick either a hemale (Hillary) or another shemale (Obama or another wanna'be) and the Republicans will go with another "big hat, no cattle" kind of guy (McCain or Ruddy) if for no other reason than people will recognize the name.

The days of a politican that will truely support the 2nd are just about over. n This last election seems to have given the limp wristed set the idea that they have carte blanc on any changes they choose to make. While most of us saw it as a referendum on the mess "little George" got us into in the sand box, the Democrats seem to be taking it as a signal to ram through just about any of the programs and policies that were rejected by America over the past 15 years.

We can only hope that they wake up in time to stop the stupidity that seems to be taking over the Land of Oz (i.e., inside the Beltway in Washington).

[Old School]

At some point, the GOP is going to need to pick a second horse and get him in front of the microphone and on TV. I too like Duncan Hunter, as he is a Reagan Conservative.

OS

[TxPete68]

Originally Posted by FrankRizzoXD40

What is his stance on immigration? I've never looked it up. I guess ill have to look into that.

Frank

Save ya the trouble Frank:

Share costs of legal immigration between states & federal.

Huckabee adopted the National Governors Association policy:

• The Governors urge Congress to consider the following principles regarding immigration policies.
• The decision to admit immigrants is a federal one that carries with it a firm federal commitment to shape immigration policy within the parameters of available resources we as a nation are determined to provide.
• The fiscal impact of immigration decisions must be addressed by the federal government. The states, charged with implementing federal policy, have shared and are sharing in the costs; however, there should be no further shift of costs to the states.
• A basic responsibility of the federal government is to collect and disseminate timely and reliable statistical information on immigration and its consequences for the United States.
• Federal immigration policies should ensure that new immigrants do not become a public charge to federal, state, or local governments.
• The federal government must provide adequate information to and consult with states on issues concerning immigration decisions that affect the states.
• States should not have to incur significant costs in implementing federal laws regarding immigration status as a condition of benefits.

• The Governors urge the following regarding Legalization and Naturalization:
• States require maximum flexibility in determining and allocating resources to meet the needs of newly legalized aliens.
• The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) must be diligent in its efforts to ensure that felons are not naturalized and being given the benefits of citizenship rather than being deported.
• The naturalization process should be streamlined to be more efficient and accessible to eligible applicants wishing to become citizens, with all the rights and responsibilities thereof.
• The INS must take aggressive action to eliminate the backlog of naturalization applications, which is now approximately 800,000 nationwide.

Source: NGA policy HR-2: Immigration and Refugee Policy 01-NGA4 on Feb 15, 2001

Federal government should deal with criminal repatriation.

Huckabee adopted the National Governors Association policy:

• [Regarding illegal immigration], the Governors continue to call on the federal government to negotiate and renegotiate prisoner transfer treaties to expedite the transfer of criminal aliens in the United States who are subject to deportation or removal. The negotiations for such agreements should focus on:
• ensuring that the transferred prisoners serve the balance of their state-imposed prison sentence;
• removing any requirement that the prisoners consent to be transferred to their countries of origin;
• structuring the process to require that the prisoners serve the remainder of their original prison sentence if they return to the United States; and
• considering economic incentives to encourage countries of origin to take back their criminal citizens.

• Additionally, the Governors believe the federal government should:
• increase the use of interior repatriation with countries contiguous to the United States;
• place INS officials in state and local facilities for early identification of potentially deportable aliens - nearer the point of their illegal entry - to ensure formal deportation prior to release; and
• upon the request of a state Governor, place INS officers in state courts to assist in the identification of criminal aliens pending criminal prosecution.

Finally, the Governors are concerned about the large number of deported felons that are returning to the United States. A significant number of the criminal alien felons housed in state prisons and local jails are previously convicted felons who reentered the United States after they were deported. The Governors urge the federal government to provide sufficient funds for proven positive identification systems, like the Automated Fingerprinting Identification System (AFIS), to allow for the expanded use of these systems in the rest of the nation.
Source: NGA policy HR-2: Immigration and Refugee Policy <A href="http://www.nga.org/nga/legislativeUpdate/1,1169,C_POLICY_POSITION"D_512,00.html">01-NGA4 on Feb 15, 2001
Import farm workers from Mexico.

Huckabee sponsored the Southern Governors' Association resolution:

• Whereas, agriculture, which has critical importance in the South not only to our economy, but to our regional and cultural identify and way of life, is facing rapid changes in technology and an increasing global economy; and,
• Whereas, the cost of government commodity programs has varied in recent years between $5 billion and $26 billion in nominal terms, and removed acreage from production thus reducing the cost effectiveness of the program; and,
• Whereas, global trade is crucial to the survival of American agriculture, calling for fair application and enforcement of current and future trade agreements to secure a level playing field for exporters of U.S. food and fiber; and,
• Whereas, agricultural labor shortages, complicated by U.S. federal immigration policy, continue to plague the South, now, therefore, be it
• • Resolved, That the Southern Governors’ Association, with respect to the 2002 farm bill, urges Congress and the Administration to:
  • Make commodity program payments, production agreements, limitations, and quotas, belong to and follow the producer, rather than the landowner — taking care not to violate WTO agreements;
  • Continue Loan Deficiency Payments and marketing assistance loans to protect farmers against price levels below the Marketing Loan rate.
  • Enact agricultural federal tax incentives — reducing local property taxes for small producers in high tax areas — so farmers can continue to farm rather than sell land for other uses as well as other tax provisions for environmental/conservation improvements, agriculture research and donations of commodities to charitable organizations;
  • Work together to ensure fair application of current and future trade agreements that will open the door to new foreign markets;
  • Implement a farm labor system, based on the agreement between Canada and Mexico, which will provide an orderly, efficient way to import farm workers.

Source: Resolution of Southern Governor's Assn. on 2002 Farm Bill <A href="http://www.southerngovernors.org/" target=_blank>01-SGA6 on Sep 9, 2001

[Frenchy]

Ron Paul is the most pro-gun of them all...Bar none!