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gsh341 · 03-22-2007, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zinji

Back in the day, I'd call that pure pwnage. Now that'd I'm a little older and a little wiser... Aw what the hell...

PWNED!!!

I was refering to their right to be juvenile, small minded, mean spirited, deluded idiots.

However, they don't have the right to assault anyone in any way.

The Vet should have beat that juvenile, small minded, mean spirited, deluded idiot to the ground.

Miguel · 03-22-2007, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinji

Back in the day, I'd call that pure pwnage. Now that'd I'm a little older and a little wiser... Aw what the hell...

PWNED!!!

Huh?

Ishpeck · 03-22-2007, 01:05 PM

Stolen from http://me.ishpeck.net/ :

During our long and scary campaign against communism, we did a great many things to prevail over this enemy ideology. We fought wars on foreign soil, took out loans to build weapons of tremendous power and involved ourselves with the affairs of foreign states.

The backlash from these decisions has been unpleasant to say the least. We face a huge national debt, there are nuclear weapons running loose somewhere on the planet, and cleaning up all our other messes has become a process of tremendous turmoil.

Most of the big political problems we have are a direct result of America's past actions. I'm not going to point fingers at previous administrators of our country because it doesn't solve any problems. Yeah, the crisis we face today may actually be their fault but it's not a question of fault but rather, one of responsibility.

Nobody likes this responsibility: It's tremendously unpleasant and arguably even unfair. It's like when your dad dies and you inherit all his assets -- which only turn out to be unnegotiable debt! Nobody wants this to happen but it doesn't change the fact that it's our responsibility to solve the problem.

Previous generations have left us a mess -- the mess of the "Cold War" for us to clean up. This one's a doozie! One of the biggest, most obvious mistakes made during the cold war was Saddam Hussein.

We put an insane despot in charge of that country. It seemed like a good idea at the time -- at least he wasn't a communist, right? Yeah, well, we had to fix that. In the process, we opened a nasty can of worms and made an even bigger mess! Kinda like how chemotherapy is sometimes more dangerous than the cancer it's supposed to cure.

Whatever the case, it was the decision of our current executive authority that we solve the problem with the direct application of tanks. Was it the best solution? I don't know -- I'm just a software engineer. That's why we have elected officials. Got a problem with that? Well, then you're welcome to try drafting your own constitution to replace the one we got. Good luck.

People who suddenly turn around and jump the "hate Bush" bandwagon are like the idiots who blow their paychecks on African prostitutes and act surprised and offended that they got a friggin' STD in the process. That's what you get for voting along the party lines, morons!

So people want our troops removed from that ocean of worms that, to this day, continue to spill forth from the can labeled "remove the insane despot from power."

But here's the trick, folks: We created the mess in Iraq. You can't tear apart your neighbor's kitchen under the pretense that you're there to remodel it and then leave before the job's done: A bad kitchen would have been more useful than a pile of shattered drywall and demolished linoleum. Nobody wants to keep working this lame construction job but there's a reason why the kitchen needed remodeling in the first place: It was our responsibility.

It's vogue these days to try to push responsibilities onto other folks. Sometimes, it's official-types with fancy badges and papers called "diplomas." Other times, it's onto our children.

Doing this sort of thing is cowardice and does little to earn my respect. Failure to contribute to a solution is as good to humanity as creating a problem.

Those who feel ashamed of our President (and you have every right to feel however you want) should still take responsibility for their actions: Chances are they voted for the man in the first place. (Check the results of the polls: He got the popular vote.) Who's the more idiotic; the dumbass Repulican, or the imbicile who voted for him? Perhaps we all made a big mistake -- and now we have to face the consequences of that mistake. Think about this next time you choose to (not) vote. Don't assume that the rhetoric or the party line can make the candidate more right for the job.

Those who show hatred for the soldiers who're simply accepting the responsibilities that come with enlistment are enemies of civilization. Showing disrespect for a person who is willing to give up his life for your freedom is about as low as I can imagine a human being sinking. Those of you who express disrespect for the volunteers who sacrifice so much for our prosperity need to go get yourselves removed from the gene pool right now. You cannot be trusted with procreation.

I am all for a speedy and effecient withdrawl from Iraq -- propose an exit plan, please! I think it's an awesome idea -- but it needs to account for the fact that Iraq's screwedupedness is our fault and our responsibility! We really shouldn't try to pitch that responsiblity onto someone else -- especially not our posterity. I don't want us to go down in history as the generation that couldn't handle its responsibilities.

FrankRizzoXD40 · 03-22-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by robertoj

I'm having flashbacks to 1971.....it seems like it was yesterday that I was getting the dirty looks and remarks in passing, in the airports as I was traveling back home after my tour of duty..........this cannot happen again.......

Our servicemen and women have served with distinction and they deserve the utmost respect from everybody...period.

Even if you disagree with the war in Iraq, you have no business spitting at or in front of anybody, specially a wounded veteran. It shows that you are an ignorant fool.

Our women and men in uniform have given and continue to give the best and some have given all. They are one of the finest fighting forces that the world have ever seen and they deserve our respect and gratitude.

However, on that subject, I would also urge our government to actively continue to investigate the issues at Walter Reed Hospital and to implement an immediate review of all the Armed Forces veteran & active service health facilities because, that is also a failure, a lack of respect and definitely one of the biggest example of ingratitude from the entity that should be the most vigilant in these matters...our own government.

Thanks for the opportunity to express my opinion.

Bravo! Great post.

You should post in the political section more often.

Frank

Sirius1963 · 03-22-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Frenchy

Protests like this always draw the flakes and the riff-raff. You think this was bad...Check out the WTO protests. Every "rock-dweller" around shows up!

Most of them were from Salem-Eugene OR. The worst part of the WTO riots in Seattle, is after a bunch of people were arrested for trashing stores, breaking windows and assulting cops, is they (rioters) sued the city... and WON. http://archives.seattletimes.nwsourc...0131&query=WTO

Now the City (meaning me) has to pay millions to the rioters. I don't even call them "protesters" because they were not protesting, they were just trashing stuff.

So I guess the soldiers are out there fighting for the rights for people to "protest" and then sue because their rights were violated.
I get the free speech part, but trashing buildings and cars? spitting on people?

On a side note, 2 years ago I was stuck in D/FW airport, and a group of (about a dozen) military guys were walking thru the terminal, and there was a string of applause all the way down as they walked by. (not sure that would happen today, but it was very cool to see/hear then)

S

FrankRizzoXD40 · 03-22-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishpeck

Stolen from http://me.ishpeck.net/ :

That's a fair analysis and I agree with some of the points, but what does it have to do with cowardly war-protesters??

Frank

Ishpeck · 03-22-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankRizzoXD40

That's a fair analysis and I agree with some of the points, but what does it have to do with cowardly war-protesters??

Aside from the bit where I tell them that they should be removed from the gene pool?

War protestors fail to understand what our country's responsibilities are. They're so busy opposing the things they dislike that they're forgetting what's right. It's right for people to fulfill their responsibilities in the best way they know how. You may not agree with the way they do it but it doesn't change the fact that it's gotta happen.

FrankRizzoXD40 · 03-22-2007, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius1963

Most of them were from Salem-Eugene OR. The worst part of the WTO riots in Seattle, is after a bunch of people were arrested for trashing stores, breaking windows and assulting cops, is they (rioters) sued the city... and WON. http://archives.seattletimes.nwsourc...0131&query=WTO

Now the City (meaning me) has to pay millions to the rioters. I don't even call them "protesters" because they were not protesting, they were just trashing stuff.

WOW! The rioters/protesters sued the city and WON

Now the taxpayers have to pay THEM? But they destroyed stuff???

Only in a liberal area like Seattle could the courts have innocent folks PAY those who broke the law. I am sure the ACLU supported the rioters.

Frank

FrankRizzoXD40 · 03-22-2007, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ishpeck

Aside from the bit where I tell them that they should be removed from the gene pool?

War protestors fail to understand what our country's responsibilities are. They're so busy opposing the things they dislike that they're forgetting what's right. It's right for people to fulfill their responsibilities in the best way they know how. You may not agree with the way they do it but it doesn't change the fact that it's gotta happen.

Sorry, I didn't realize that you wrote that, since it said "stolen from...."

I read it, but it seemed to be more about Iraq and how "we screwed up Iraq, but we can't just leave without fixing it and Iraq is our responsibility".

I see what you are saying now.

Thanks for clearing that up for me,

Frank

Ishpeck · 03-22-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankRizzoXD40

Only in a liberal area like Seattle...

Seattle isn't a state, in case you cared.

And any true liberal would know better than to believe you could somehow win by filing suit against your own government -- it's like shooting your head to get revenge for smashing your own finger with a hammer: It doesn't solve any problems, it just creates more problems.

PS: I'm on a campaign to free the word "liberal" from the shame that left-wing, socialistic madmen try to sully it with on a daily basis.

03-22-2007, 01:05 PM	#43
Ishpeck XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 3,777	Stolen from http://me.ishpeck.net/ : During our long and scary campaign against communism, we did a great many things to prevail over this enemy ideology. We fought wars on foreign soil, took out loans to build weapons of tremendous power and involved ourselves with the affairs of foreign states. The backlash from these decisions has been unpleasant to say the least. We face a huge national debt, there are nuclear weapons running loose somewhere on the planet, and cleaning up all our other messes has become a process of tremendous turmoil. Most of the big political problems we have are a direct result of America's past actions. I'm not going to point fingers at previous administrators of our country because it doesn't solve any problems. Yeah, the crisis we face today may actually be their fault but it's not a question of fault but rather, one of responsibility. Nobody likes this responsibility: It's tremendously unpleasant and arguably even unfair. It's like when your dad dies and you inherit all his assets -- which only turn out to be unnegotiable debt! Nobody wants this to happen but it doesn't change the fact that it's our responsibility to solve the problem. Previous generations have left us a mess -- the mess of the "Cold War" for us to clean up. This one's a doozie! One of the biggest, most obvious mistakes made during the cold war was Saddam Hussein. We put an insane despot in charge of that country. It seemed like a good idea at the time -- at least he wasn't a communist, right? Yeah, well, we had to fix that. In the process, we opened a nasty can of worms and made an even bigger mess! Kinda like how chemotherapy is sometimes more dangerous than the cancer it's supposed to cure. Whatever the case, it was the decision of our current executive authority that we solve the problem with the direct application of tanks. Was it the best solution? I don't know -- I'm just a software engineer. That's why we have elected officials. Got a problem with that? Well, then you're welcome to try drafting your own constitution to replace the one we got. Good luck. People who suddenly turn around and jump the "hate Bush" bandwagon are like the idiots who blow their paychecks on African prostitutes and act surprised and offended that they got a friggin' STD in the process. That's what you get for voting along the party lines, morons! So people want our troops removed from that ocean of worms that, to this day, continue to spill forth from the can labeled "remove the insane despot from power." But here's the trick, folks: We created the mess in Iraq. You can't tear apart your neighbor's kitchen under the pretense that you're there to remodel it and then leave before the job's done: A bad kitchen would have been more useful than a pile of shattered drywall and demolished linoleum. Nobody wants to keep working this lame construction job but there's a reason why the kitchen needed remodeling in the first place: It was our responsibility. It's vogue these days to try to push responsibilities onto other folks. Sometimes, it's official-types with fancy badges and papers called "diplomas." Other times, it's onto our children. Doing this sort of thing is cowardice and does little to earn my respect. Failure to contribute to a solution is as good to humanity as creating a problem. Those who feel ashamed of our President (and you have every right to feel however you want) should still take responsibility for their actions: Chances are they voted for the man in the first place. (Check the results of the polls: He got the popular vote.) Who's the more idiotic; the dumbass Repulican, or the imbicile who voted for him? Perhaps we all made a big mistake -- and now we have to face the consequences of that mistake. Think about this next time you choose to (not) vote. Don't assume that the rhetoric or the party line can make the candidate more right for the job. Those who show hatred for the soldiers who're simply accepting the responsibilities that come with enlistment are enemies of civilization. Showing disrespect for a person who is willing to give up his life for your freedom is about as low as I can imagine a human being sinking. Those of you who express disrespect for the volunteers who sacrifice so much for our prosperity need to go get yourselves removed from the gene pool right now. You cannot be trusted with procreation. I am all for a speedy and effecient withdrawl from Iraq -- propose an exit plan, please! I think it's an awesome idea -- but it needs to account for the fact that Iraq's screwedupedness is our fault and our responsibility! We really shouldn't try to pitch that responsiblity onto someone else -- especially not our posterity. I don't want us to go down in history as the generation that couldn't handle its responsibilities. __________________ Fire. Fire is the solution. Politics is ugly. Fire is pretty. Seems like a good trade to me. http://www.ishpeck.net/ Last edited by Ishpeck : 03-22-2007 at 01:10 PM.

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