Ted Kennedy, Minimun Wage

[Alaskapopo]

Originally Posted by jkswiss

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Republicans have lost touch with the working class base. Out to make a profit yes..Doesn't mean you have to milk your employee's dry. They're just trying to make it in this world, same as you.

Very true and its one of the reasons besides the war that they lost the last election.
Pat

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

If your not aware of the fact that big buisness is prodminently republican its not worth debating this topic with you as your not armed with the facts.
Pat

Alaska - You appear to the one not armed with any facts. Sort of like your ridiculous claim about the last election. Do you have one single source-statistic to back up either of your cliams or are you just talking out your kazoo?

[BEEFCAKE-NMCB1]

Originally Posted by dualcert

Yea ol' Ted Kennedy is true saint. That drunken SOB is only out for one thing, that's Ted.

Here are some quotes from good ol' Ted


There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed. (27 September 2002)

We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction. (27 September 2002)

Now a little contradiction from Ted:

No matter how many times the Administration denies it, there is no question they misled the nation and led us into a quagmire in Iraq.

There was no imminent threat. This was made up in Texas, announced in January to the Republican leadership that war was going to take place and was going to be good politically. This whole thing was a fraud.


I'm sure there are lots more, but frankly the thought of listing more of that jackass's prattle makes me ill.

Just send Ted Kenedy and his family over there driving their car's they ought to run over at least a few hundred terrorist, problem solved....

[Brickboy240]

5% of the entire US workforce receives minimum wage. Not really a big issue that affects tons of people if you ask me. The way Kenedy and other Democrats go on and on about raising the minimum wage, you'd think a large number of people were working for this amount and were starving because of it. Not even close.

Raising the minimum wage hurts small businesses. A lagre part of the US economy is based on small businesses...much more than the number of workers working for minimum wage.

What if that required minimum was raised and employers had to lay off a few employees to compensate the ones they keep? Is raising the minimum wage such a good idea then? What if the small businesses raised prices for goods and services they provided to make up for paying employees more? Do you like the idea of paying more for good and services? How does possible lay-offs and price increases HELP our economy?

Listen, its easy to get swayed by the tear-jerking bellowing of someone like Kenedy, but I doubt Kenedy knows a damn sole that is either working for minumum wage or anyone that owns a business that might be adversely affected by raising the minimum wage. Don't be fooled by these people.

Kenedy is wanting to raise the minimum wage as a tip of the hat to the union biggies that give guys like him thousands in campaign contributions. It also is a chance for some good PR, as he looks compassionate and can paint the opponents as cold hearted souls that don't care.

How does that work? Well, if Kenedy is successful in raising the minimum wage, then, union biggies can go in and argue to employers that non-union, basic employees are earning "X" amount and the union employees need a raise. It is a backhanded way to force businesses that employ union workers to pay union employees more money, even if the union employees are doing nothing extra to deserve it.

Why else would someone as wealthy and powerful as Kenedy be pushing so hard on an issue that only affects 5% of the working force? Out of the kindness of his own heart?

Wake up and smell the coffee, people. There is an agenda behind the bally-hoo over raising the minimum wage. Shouldn't our elected officials (of whom WE pay their salaries) be working on issues that affect more than 5% of the working people? I sure think so! I put raising the minimum wage right in there with gay marriage as a non-issue and a distraction, really.

Man...do they need to offer economics as a required course in school or what? Public schools are dumbing people down so far, that even tying one's shoes will become a major accomplishment. No wonder shysters like Kenedy stay in office so long or get elected in the first place.

- Brickboy240

[bd]

What if people who had more money - spent more money?!?!?!

What would that do to the economy?

bd

[Kauzi XD45]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

5% of the entire US workforce receives minimum wage. Not really a big issue that affects tons of people if you ask me. The way Kenedy and other Democrats go on and on about raising the minimum wage, you'd think a large number of people were working for this amount and were starving because of it. Not even close.

Raising the minimum wage hurts small businesses. A lagre part of the US economy is based on small businesses...much more than the number of workers working for minimum wage.

What if that required minimum was raised and employers had to lay off a few employees to compensate the ones they keep? Is raising the minimum wage such a good idea then? What if the small businesses raised prices for goods and services they provided to make up for paying employees more? Do you like the idea of paying more for good and services? How does possible lay-offs and price increases HELP our economy?

Listen, its easy to get swayed by the tear-jerking bellowing of someone like Kenedy, but I doubt Kenedy knows a damn sole that is either working for minumum wage or anyone that owns a business that might be adversely affected by raising the minimum wage. Don't be fooled by these people.

Kenedy is wanting to raise the minimum wage as a tip of the hat to the union biggies that give guys like him thousands in campaign contributions. It also is a chance for some good PR, as he looks compassionate and can paint the opponents as cold hearted souls that don't care.

How does that work? Well, if Kenedy is successful in raising the minimum wage, then, union biggies can go in and argue to employers that non-union, basic employees are earning "X" amount and the union employees need a raise. It is a backhanded way to force businesses that employ union workers to pay union employees more money, even if the union employees are doing nothing extra to deserve it.

Why else would someone as wealthy and powerful as Kenedy be pushing so hard on an issue that only affects 5% of the working force? Out of the kindness of his own heart?

Wake up and smell the coffee, people. There is an agenda behind the bally-hoo over raising the minimum wage. Shouldn't our elected officials (of whom WE pay their salaries) be working on issues that affect more than 5% of the working people? I sure think so! I put raising the minimum wage right in there with gay marriage as a non-issue and a distraction, really.

Man...do they need to offer economics as a required course in school or what? Public schools are dumbing people down so far, that even tying one's shoes will become a major accomplishment. No wonder shysters like Kenedy stay in office so long or get elected in the first place.

- Brickboy240

+1 Very Nice!

[Brickboy240]

People who "have more money" DO spend more money. They also pay more taxes.

You're going to have to try harder than that. The normal class warrior garbage just doesn't hold water in this argument, sorry.

- Brickboy240

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

If your not aware of the fact that big buisness is prodminently republican its not worth debating this topic with you as your not armed with the facts.
Pat

Intresting....

YOU make a claim without showing any facts.

I call you on this.

Then YOU say that I'M not armed with facts???

I think you are going to get along with bd very well here.

Frank

[FrankRizzoXD40]

Originally Posted by bd

What if people who had more money - spent more money?!?!?!

What would that do to the economy?

bd

Are you forgetting that prices go up when the minimum wage was increased?

Did you skip over retired's post or do you have him on your ignore list?

Frank

[Bigtime]

Frank,

Its not who is on bd's ignore list anymore, it's who isn't. At this point I think he's down to just eleanor, alaskapopo, vaxdguy and jkswiss who aren't on ignore, with frenchy left on their so he claim balance.

Yeeee Haaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!