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FrankRizzoXD40 · 01-22-2007, 01:56 PM

There is actually already a thread about this.

This democrat wants to ban spanking--another foolish attempt to legislate morality!

It sounds pretty stupid to me. But apparently it is ok with VAXDGUY if the government regulates how you discipline your children, as long as your children is under 4.

Hey, the government knows how to spend our money better than we do, so I guess it's only reasonable that they know how to raise our kids better as well!!

Frank

nickb · 01-22-2007, 02:09 PM

...."just wait til your father gets home....I'm mean, just wait till you turn 4! Then you're gonna get it!!!!"

Brickboy240 · 01-22-2007, 02:10 PM

Doesn't the state of CA have MUCH bigger things to worry about than someone spanking their kids? Why do elected officials focus on such unimportant BS and let the big problems go unfixed for so damned long?

- Brickboy240

FrankRizzoXD40 · 01-22-2007, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Doesn't the state of CA have MUCH bigger things to worry about than someone spanking their kids? Why do elected officials focus on such unimportant BS and let the big problems go unfixed for so damned long?

- Brickboy240

It is because the person who is proposing this bill is a democrat.

Frank

TexicanKid · 01-22-2007, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

Doesn't the state of CA have MUCH bigger things to worry about than someone spanking their kids? Why do elected officials focus on such unimportant BS and let the big problems go unfixed for so damned long?

- Brickboy240

I'll tell you why (or what I think is the reason why). A lot of folks have a holier-than-thou attitude and try to show their moral superiority by enacting crazy laws which they think makes them look profoundly compassionate and progressive. Laws like making animals have the same rights as humans, or making spanking illegal, or making it a crime to refuse to grant a handout to a homeless person, etc...

The problem with California is a good portion of the state is comprised of such individuals. And they vote one another into office where they have the power to propose such laws.

eleanor · 01-22-2007, 04:14 PM

It is not necessary to spank a kid under 4. Discipline can be enforced without terrorizing the poor kid. Do you really think you need to spank a three year old? Or are you just letting out your frustrations?

FrankRizzoXD40 · 01-22-2007, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleanor

It is not necessary to spank a kid under 4. Discipline can be enforced without terrorizing the poor kid. Do you really think you need to spank a three year old? Or are you just letting out your frustrations?

Who is "you" in your post

Who are you accusing of "just letting out you frustrations" by spanking young children?

More hypothetical people?

The question that I want to ask you eleanor is this:

Do you support this bill?

It sounds like you do, but I don't want to assume anything and/or mischaracterize you.

Thanks,

Frank

**DanTheEldest** · 01-22-2007, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleanor

It is not necessary to spank a kid under 4. Discipline can be enforced without terrorizing the poor kid. Do you really think you need to spank a three year old? Or are you just letting out your frustrations?

It's not "necessary" to own 30-round magazines for our also-"unnecessary" assault rifles either, but does that make intrusive government regulation acceptable somehow?

And yes, with a child still learning language skills, sometimes corporal punishment is a very swift and unambiguous lesson that something is unacceptable. Nobody's advocating beating on a toddler, but a stinger to the hand or backside can make a point where sign-language and "time-outs" don't.

TexicanKid · 01-22-2007, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eleanor

It is not necessary to spank a kid under 4. Discipline can be enforced without terrorizing the poor kid. Do you really think you need to spank a three year old? Or are you just letting out your frustrations?

Naw, it's natural, and not just among humans. Life, for thousands of years (tens of thousands?) has used some form of barking, nipping, slapping or other corporal punishment to educate its young.

Only when it's excessive, is it abuse or some form of sick over-compensation for frustration, as you describe.

But to slap your kid's hand when he or she is reaching for the hot frying pan? Well, that only makes sense.

Bottom line: no California congressperson has an edge over sensible folk on parenting.

rodnocker1 · 01-22-2007, 05:00 PM

I've read the article several times and I have yet to find where they answered the question..."What makes "4" the magic number?" Are children incapable of learning before that age and who decided this? How about under 10 instead? Even better, none under the age of 18. Nothing but time outs and take away their priveledges. That way, they're being punished no more severely than they will be after they turn 18 and commit a crime. Prison? Just another "time out".

Whoa, wait a minute! Would this mean Arnold and Maria were basically treating their children like they were common criminals?

01-22-2007, 01:56 PM	#21
FrankRizzoXD40 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 7,169	There is actually already a thread about this. This democrat wants to ban spanking--another foolish attempt to legislate morality! It sounds pretty stupid to me. But apparently it is ok with VAXDGUY if the government regulates how you discipline your children, as long as your children is under 4. Hey, the government knows how to spend our money better than we do, so I guess it's only reasonable that they know how to raise our kids better as well!! Frank __________________ XD-40 Service, bi-tone Crossbreed Supertuck CCW holder _________________ Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. -Ronald Reagan

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rodnocker1 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Leona, Texas Posts: 589	I've read the article several times and I have yet to find where they answered the question..."What makes "4" the magic number?" Are children incapable of learning before that age and who decided this? How about under 10 instead? Even better, none under the age of 18. Nothing but time outs and take away their priveledges. That way, they're being punished no more severely than they will be after they turn 18 and commit a crime. Prison? Just another "time out". Whoa, wait a minute! Would this mean Arnold and Maria were basically treating their children like they were common criminals? __________________ Rodney

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01-22-2007, 04:14 PM	#26
eleanor XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: dallas, texas Posts: 551	It is not necessary to spank a kid under 4. Discipline can be enforced without terrorizing the poor kid. Do you really think you need to spank a three year old? Or are you just letting out your frustrations?