More to think about

[sewerman]

bush's steady erosion of our personal freedoms seems to be in step with Adolf Hilter's enabling act.

comparing a political method / strategy is hardly calling anyone a mass murderer or war criminal.

his track record contradicts his re-election lies....er....promises, at the lectern.

america is vascillating from one extreme to the other within our two parties. no wonder the people are looking for change. our political situation is like choosing between the devil and luicfer....get it ? same person, different package!

[Frenchy]

I truly believe that Bush believes that he is doing what is best for the country, when he's not, IMO.
You don't strengthen that framework of our democracy, by eroding the foundation that it was built upon.

[LUVMYSIGP225]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

I truly believe that Bush believes that he is doing what is best for the country, when he's not, IMO.
You don't strengthen that framework of our democracy, by eroding the foundation that it was built upon.

Liberals have been eroding the framework of our country for decades. They just go about it differently than Bush. That is why I don't like either of them.

[sewerman]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

We seem to be missing the point here and getting off topic. The federal government is insinuating itself into states rights, and usurping the authority of the states CiC.
Don't know about you guys...But I got a real problem with that.

wasn't states righted voted out in 1917?

didn't the southern states have to forfeit these rights inorder to return
back into the "union" and end martial law during the reconstruction?

[Frenchy]

I suppose we could just go ahead and sh*tcan those state constitutions.

[beardman2]

Originally Posted by sewerman

what he has done with the national guard among other things....

goes hand in hand with the same political methods that was put into place my ADOLF HILTER with his enabling act.

this has nothing to do with accusing mein herr bush of purpetrating a final solution.

the enabling act had no direct cause with the final solution. other than indirectly to enbolden HILTER to go further with striping the rights of all germans.

look at his (bush's) agenda, what he has done; not what he has promised at the re-election lectern and you will notice a dedicated erosion of our personal freedoms.

sorry if my analogy touched your nerve.

when you use terms like "`our' Fuhrer!" and "mein herr bush" how is anyone supposed to think you are doing anything BUT linking Bush to Hitler?

For anything our country is doing to be linked to that evil man is just friggin nuts IMHO.

If you want to say erroding states rights is bad and like what allowed hitler to take power I'll agree. But you user terminoligy designed to piss people off. suprise! you did.

[beardman2]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

We seem to be missing the point here and getting off topic. The federal government is insinuating itself into states rights, and usurping the authority of the states CiC.
Don't know about you guys...But I got a real problem with that.

I have a huge problem with that as well.

[sewerman]

Originally Posted by Frenchy

I suppose we could just go ahead and sh*tcan those state constitutions.

odd that you should mention such?

i have felt the same way for years.

actually the states at one time had
SOVEREIGNTY. this right was supported in
our consistutition.
the state was to be the supreme authority within it's borders.
the southern states were forced....blackmailed into foreit of these rights in order to gain admittence in to the 'union'.
later as the government progressed into a centralized form, state's right, which was only legitimate with sovereignty was voted out for the remaining states in 1917.

so why have the state consistution?
though we have no sovereignty, the federal goevernment allows us to conduct pretty much our own affairs without to much intervention, except for the blackmailing that goes on with regards to withholding federal funding for schools, roads, .....etc. unless certain laws are passed. one good example is the seat belt law. the federal government allows/wants the states to be somewhat self governing but with out supreme authority or sovereignty. cheaper on the feds that way. all comes down to money!

[sewerman]

Originally Posted by beardman2

when you use terms like "`our' Fuhrer!" and "mein herr bush" how is anyone supposed to think you are doing anything BUT linking Bush to Hitler?

For anything our country is doing to be linked to that evil man is just friggin nuts IMHO.

If you want to say erroding states rights is bad and like what allowed hitler to take power I'll agree. But you user terminoligy designed to piss people off. suprise! you did.

i refer you to EINHEIT 13's
2nd post on page 1 of this
thread.