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KP Ling · 12-20-2006, 06:28 PM

"I support the proposed $2.10 increase in the minimum wage over a two- year period. I believe we should do it in a way that does not punish the millions of small businesses that are creating most of the new jobs in our country. So I support pairing it with targeted tax and regulatory relief, to help these small businesses stay competitive and to help keep our economy growing."-President Bush in his Dec. 20 news conference

http://www.wmtw.com/politics/10575003/detail.html

FrankRizzoXD40 · 12-20-2006, 07:44 PM

Can you please tell me why you consider it "socialism" to support an increase in the federal minimum wage?

Are you somehow saying that we should not increase the minimum wage

Thank you,

Frank

Son of Norway · 12-20-2006, 08:53 PM

Minimum wage should be adjusted quarterly to the CPI.

**Frenchy** · 12-20-2006, 09:15 PM

Is anyone other that pimple-faced highschoolers working part-time, actually making minimum wage?

Mark S. · 12-20-2006, 09:24 PM

http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2003tbls.htm#4

**beardman2** · 12-20-2006, 09:33 PM

I have to agree with KP on this one to some extent. Our founding fathers didn't intend for crap like this.

I'd even go so far as to say the minimum wage is unconstitutional.

**Frenchy** · 12-20-2006, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark S.

http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2003tbls.htm#4

That's what I thought!

None around here!...And we're economically depressed.

FrankRizzoXD40 · 12-21-2006, 03:47 AM

Apparently someone is making more than $5.15, since the average hourly wage for non-supervisory workers is $16.94.

Frank

**XDAndMe** · 12-21-2006, 03:52 AM

Wow, my first job as a pimply teenaged high-schooler started me at $7.00/hour stocking shelves and ringing up customers. I guess I can't complain.

NewXD40fun · 12-21-2006, 04:48 AM

Everybody knows that the forced minimum wage issue is merely Democrat populist politics. The Democrats accomplish two things with this issue: 1. they buy votes with other people’s money and 2. they appeal to people’s greed and envy by appearing to rescue the little man from greedy CEOs.

By tying the minimum wage hike with “tax and regulatory relief” for small businesses the President can fight the Democrat Congress anti-employer agenda. The Democrats have promised to raise Federal taxes so this should be an interesting battle.

Tom

12-20-2006, 06:28 PM	#1
KP Ling XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: College Station, Texas Posts: 480	More socialism from a "conservative" President "I support the proposed $2.10 increase in the minimum wage over a two- year period. I believe we should do it in a way that does not punish the millions of small businesses that are creating most of the new jobs in our country. So I support pairing it with targeted tax and regulatory relief, to help these small businesses stay competitive and to help keep our economy growing."-President Bush in his Dec. 20 news conference http://www.wmtw.com/politics/10575003/detail.html __________________ "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison

12-20-2006, 07:44 PM	#2
FrankRizzoXD40 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,656	Can you please tell me why you consider it "socialism" to support an increase in the federal minimum wage? Are you somehow saying that we should not increase the minimum wage Thank you, Frank __________________ XD-40 Service, bi-tone Crossbreed Supertuck CCW holder _________________ Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. -Ronald Reagan

12-20-2006, 09:33 PM	#6
beardman2 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,950	I have to agree with KP on this one to some extent. Our founding fathers didn't intend for crap like this. I'd even go so far as to say the minimum wage is unconstitutional. __________________ - He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine I will not be involved with the dreams of angry men. Founding Documents Freedom isn't free: http://www.anysoldier.com

12-21-2006, 03:47 AM	#8
FrankRizzoXD40 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,656	Apparently someone is making more than $5.15, since the average hourly wage for non-supervisory workers is $16.94. Frank __________________ XD-40 Service, bi-tone Crossbreed Supertuck CCW holder _________________ Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid. -Ronald Reagan

12-21-2006, 04:48 AM	#10
NewXD40fun XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Olmsted, Ohio Posts: 2,729	Everybody knows that the forced minimum wage issue is merely Democrat populist politics. The Democrats accomplish two things with this issue: 1. they buy votes with other people’s money and 2. they appeal to people’s greed and envy by appearing to rescue the little man from greedy CEOs. By tying the minimum wage hike with “tax and regulatory relief” for small businesses the President can fight the Democrat Congress anti-employer agenda. The Democrats have promised to raise Federal taxes so this should be an interesting battle. Tom __________________ Springfield XD-40 Service w/DGR kit, EFK 9mm Taurus PT-140 Mill Pro _ Specialized Roubaix Expert "YOU'VE GOT TO STAND FOR SOMETHING OR YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING" ---Aaron Tippin

12-20-2006, 09:15 PM	#4
Frenchy XDTalk 10K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Mid-Missouri Posts: 13,140	Is anyone other that pimple-faced highschoolers working part-time, actually making minimum wage? __________________ ~SC Harvey~ 2008 Election..."Imbrace your ignorance, and vote your preference". It's quite simple, really... *If you vote for Obama, you are a fuking idiot. If you vote for McCain, you are a fuking idiot.* *If your vote is for the lessor of two evils, then you can be comforted knowing that you're less of a fuking idiot than the other guy! Because Fritz says so! RON PAUL IN 2008**

12-20-2006, 09:24 PM	#5
Mark S. XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 733	http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2003tbls.htm#4

12-21-2006, 03:52 AM	#9
XDAndMe XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: PA, USA Posts: 3,402	Wow, my first job as a pimply teenaged high-schooler started me at $7.00/hour stocking shelves and ringing up customers. I guess I can't complain.

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