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I just heard this on Dennis Prager this afternoon.
I was able to locate the OP Ed. piece here. This was published in the Tulsa World on the Editorial Page. Quote:
In case you haven't listened to the show, this isn't where the story ends. After this piece was published he was threatened by Muslims in his own mosque and even forbidden from returning to his mosque until he retracts what he has written and appologizes. Quote:
And I'd highly recommend you check out the local CBS news affiliate, channel 9 news. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbkrKH7SCio There is also more information here. All of this because he asked for a fatwah against terrorists? Is this really a religion of peace and tolerance Flame away. ![]()
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"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin "Freedom is not America's gift to the world; it is God's gift to all humanity"-- Guess! PA Roll Call .................... My Blog Last edited by Krackels : 11-28-2006 at 02:21 PM. |
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More like the religion of feces.
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Islam is in a deperate need for internal change, or risk a war that could see it either win it all, or lose it all. Moslems (influnetial ones) either take back their religion, and persecute the likes of Al Qaeda and Hizbolla, or risk winning/losing it all by following them. Moselms around the world do most of the fighting against the likes of Al-Qaeda, but too many influential Moslems support the cause of terrorism, if only by donating a few bucks here and there, or chastizing a fellow like this one.
If what Bush wanted to do had been done by all of the west in a united manner (force out dictators in the Arab world, and put democracies in their place), this would have defused a lot of terrorism. Regretfully the Arab world remains one of the last bastions of military dictatorships, some supported by us.
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Miguel Enjoying my XD .45ACP Tactical. need to break in my 870, and my wife's XDSC9. I carry my XD45 ACP Tactical, in a SuperTuck from CB. Very comfortable, easy to hide, easy to draw, and easy to reholster. Looking for an HDR*, either an AR-180B, or Kel-Tec FBR. HDR, Homeland Defense Rifle |
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sammi....Nikon..... is Jamal Miftah on the right track? Or was he treated fairly by his mosque?
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Not to knock on the religion as a whole, but it's disturbing when we see these kind of Islamofacist ideas so close to home.
I mean this is Tulsa, Oklahoma not Tehran or even London for that matter.
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"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin "Freedom is not America's gift to the world; it is God's gift to all humanity"-- Guess! PA Roll Call .................... My Blog Last edited by Krackels : 11-29-2006 at 08:42 AM. |
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He did make a mistake. As muslims we don't belive chrstianity and judaism stemmed from abraham as he said. muslim=submitter. We belive abraham was a submitter, not a jew or a christian. If jesus didnt hear of the word christian how did abraham...
Its very simple when it comes to terrorism. They are a deviant sect. prophecys of such people to come that our prophet (peace be upon him) warned us about. One famoue one narrated from the diceple of the prophet when he went out with his army to destroy them. Ali (radiallahu annhu) said: “There will arise a people from my nation, those who will recite the Qur’aan; your recitation is nothing (insignificant) compared to theirs, your prayer is nothing (insignificant) compared to theirs. They recite the Qur’aan believing it is evidence in support of them yet it is actually against them. Their prayer will not even go beyond their throats (mere reading only). They will pass through and out of Islaam just as an arrow passes out of a target.” other prochecys which are found in the most authentic source for muslims besides the quran which is the sunnah. <FONT face="Trebuchet MS"><FONT face="Trebuchet MS"><FONT face=Arial>The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: |
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The Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
“There will appear at the end of time a group of people and it is as if this man is from them. They will recite the Qur’aan yet it will not reach beyond their throat. They will pass through Islaam as an arrow passes through a target. Their distinctive mark is their shaven heads. They will not cease to appear until the last of them rise up along side the antichrist…" And in another hadeeth (narration) the prophet (peace be upon him) said: “At the end of time there will emerge people who will be young and foolish. They will speak as if they are the best of creation and they will recite the Qur’aan but it will not go any deeper than their collar bones...They are the most evil of people and of creation...They will call people to the Book of Allaah but they have nothing to do with it. Whoever fights them is closer to Allah than them and there sign is that they shave their heads.” |
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Islaamic condemnation on the despicable acts that occurred on 9/11 and events like it:
"…the terrorist attacks that took place and what occurred of general (mass) killing, then it is not permissible and Islam does not allow it in any form whatsoever. Islam frees itself from this action, regardless of whether those responsible for it were Muslims or non-Muslims. And none of the scholars who are upon the correct form of Islam, affirm the likes of these actions. The likes of these actions, in any place or time, which happen here and there, were never known in Islam, ever. In fact, never since Allaah sent the Prophet (peace be upon him) till this time of ours. These actions were never known amongst Islam and the Muslims – assassination of innocent people and bombings and widespread murder. So Islam does not allow them and nor do Muslims perform them, and the true followers of Islam – which is balanced and moderate – then they free themselves from these actions and from those who performed them, regardless of whether they were Muslims or non-Muslims. This is oppression and Islam forbids it…" Excerpt taken from a speech given by Shaykh Saalih as-Suhaymee in Saudi Arabia |
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The Permanent Council of Saudi Arabia’s Senior Scholars Condemnation of Bombings
The permanent council holds this (bombing) to be none other than a sinful act of transgression and an atrocious crime. It is an act of treachery and treason, a public display of breaching, that which is held inviolable by religion, wealth, their safety, and security. None but a wicked evil person could do such an act—someone full of envy, disloyalty, jealousy, oppression and enmity, and the hatred of life and well-being. Muslims have never differed with regards to the forbiddance of such an act, its hideousness, and the great sin acquired thereby. The verses of the Qur’aan and Hadeeth (statements of the Prophet Mohammad [peace be upon him]) regarding the forbiddance of such crimes are well-known.
-The Permanent Council of Saudi Arabia’s Senior Scholars Condemnation of Bombings -------- if you are interested and want to find out more, as these terrorists can be written abuot in volumes... this is a good site for it. http://www.calgaryislam.com/imembers...rror_page.html |
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excellent lecture given to birtish media in UK about these terrorists.
http://www.spubs.com/sps/sad/mp3.cfm?scn=dl&LeID=129 |
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