Give Texas Back to Mexico..

[jeff221]

I propose we give Texas back to Mexico and watch how the rednecks who are so upset about illegal aliens deal with being born on the wrong side of the border...

[amishclark]

you better put your flame-proof suit on...

[jeff221]

Originally Posted by amishclark

you better put your flame-proof suit on...

You think I'd lob this over the plate if I didn't expect them to swing?

[Brickboy240]

So...

...everyone that wants our immigration laws (laws that are already on the books) enforced is a redneck? Really? Thats brilliant.

I don't expect you to explain to us poor, misguided souls how we are all "rednecks" because we want our laws enforced, not only because its completely false, but because this is how most of you "drive-by posters" operate - with nothing of any logic or reason to offer up.

Please, go back to your X-Box and MTV and leave us alone. Besides..I think I hear your mother calling for you.

- Brickboy240

[jeff221]

Originally Posted by Brickboy240

So...

...everyone that wants our immigration laws (laws that are already on the books) enforced is a redneck? Really? Thats brilliant.

That's an EXCELLIENT straw man arguement, quite impressive...

I don't think I said that, but it's real easy to dispute a statement when you can convert the other guys arguement into something that is riduclous and THEN take it down...

I know you read the republican handbook, because you have master the Strawman arguement chapter, but you still seem to disregard the actual point.

"watch how the rednecks who are so upset about illegal aliens deal with being born on the wrong side of the border..."

My statement is directed toward REDNECKS, if you ARE a redneck then many that's why you feel insulted, if you are not, then it obviously is not directed toward you. I define redneck, for the purpose of this statement, as someone who hates Mexicans just because they were born on the wrong side of the Border, as such, suggested we put those people (so you don't get confused, I am refering to the people (stated "rednecks") who hate mexicans JUST BECAUSE they were born in Mexico) on the other side of the border and tell them "stay out, you were born to the wrong family" and see what it's like...

I don't think I even mentioned "not inforcing" immigration laws, and as such your strawman arguement can be put back up on that bullsh!t shelf where you pulled it from.

Thank you, and have a nice day...

DTIP....

[Brickboy240]

You are the one that wants to give the state of Texas back to Mexico.

What is anyone from Texas supposed to think of an outrageous and inciteful comment such as that?

Whats your angle in all of this? Just to stir up sh*t? It sure seems that way. Have you seen how many XD Talk members are form Texas? You've probably offended half the damn board. Nice.

I know nothing of the Republican play book you speak of. If you tak any time at all reading my past posts, you will finds that I have as many "issues" with the R's as I do the D's. If I have to align myself with a political party that suits my views the best, it would be the Libertarians. I feel that it is the system itself, not just one party, that is the problem with Amrieca today. Kerry vs. Bush to me, looked like a choice between two very similar people. The choice has gone out of politics in this country, when you get right down to it.

I merely brougt up enforcing our immigration laws, because a very common label attached to those that are anti-illegal immigration by those that are pro-illegal immigration is that "you're against illegals because you're a racist or redneck or hate latino peoples." This is simply not true.

Being the son of an immigrant parent, it would be hypocritical of me to be against immigration to the USA, period. I don't care if you came here from Mexico or Germany....all I am asking is that you do it legally, pay taxes and assimilate as my parents did. This also happens to be the sentiment of most Texans I talk to about the illegal problem. They're not racist rednecks and many are of hispanic background. Its the "illegal" part we're having a problem with. My neighbor was born in Argentina and immigrated to the USA legally years go and is very much against illegal immigration...is he a redneck? Hardly!

If you're not living in one of the border states, you have not a clue as to how illegal immigration is putting a strain on resources in these states. If Washington DC was located where San Antonio is, we'd see an entirely differnent tune being sung by the politicians on this issue.

It is also cumbersome and confusing having to deal with two languages in these border states. A few years ago, I got into a car accident with a lady that spoke no English at all. her kids were screaming and I wanted to help her, but neither one of us understood the other. If you knwo anyone that has lived in Qubec, Canada (and I have) they tell stories of how having two languages is confusing and complicates everyday life. My grandparents came here from Sweden in 1941 and knew literally no English. There were no signs in Swedish, so they HAD to learn English. it did not mean that Americans were anti-Swede or wished to deny them their "heritage" but we all have to communicate here.

All this aside, I would love to hear why Texas should be given to Mexico. I would also love to hear how your comments are not offensive to those Texans that are not rednecks...along with a definition of what exactly a redneck is. If you're going to make statements like that, be prepared to back them up.

(Yes, this is the test to see whether you are serious and capable of cohesive, logical thought or just the usual sh*t-stirrers we see come and go around here.)

- Brickboy240

PS - Intentionally pissing off the Texans is not something I'd advise to anyone.

[Brickboy240]

One more thing...your sig says "we live in a democracy"

We do not live in a democracy. We live in a representative rebublic.

Even this dumb Texas redneck knows that....golly-gee!

- brickboy240

[boater1217]

Jeff221, I assume from your post you are in favor of ILLEGAL immigration.

[beardman2]

I wasn't shocked to see the first person to respond was brickboy!

Jeff your whole argument is filled with as much hate as people who hate "mexicans" just for "being born on the wrong side of the border".

By calling out Texas you obviously have a bias and assume moral authority over them.

What about all those states in the NE that are having to start fighting this problem? Are they all rednecks too?

If you want to say you hate racists. Cool I'm with that. But thats not what you said.

[Brickboy240]

Yes, I too am waiting for the "logic" (and I use the term loosely) for illegal immigration. I'd love to hear it. I smell a troll here, people.

Second, you said "give Texas to Mexico" and the term "rednecks" together...hello...isn't that stereotyping much as the so-called "rednecks" are called out for? I believe it is. To stereotype Texans show me that you know very little about this state...its people and the make-up of this region. Wow...so much for the openmindedness and tolerance of the left...haven't seen it yet.

Wait till the other Texans on this forum see your post....you will learn the hard way why we say "Don't Mess With Texas." We're normally very open and friendly sorts of good character, but when you pull a "drive-by insult" on us like that and don't back it up...be ready for alot of flak.

I warned you...

- Brickboy240

PS - you still haven't told us where you're from. Why? Are you ashamed of your state?