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boater1217 · 09-21-2006, 06:19 AM

I don't understand the problem with showing an ID to vote

. I would think this is a fairly straight forward idea. I have to show an ID to get on an airplane, I have to have an ID to drive, I have to have an ID to cash a check, I could go on and on. Anyway seems some people are very opposed to the idea. http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...3316-5086r.htm

jeff221 · 09-21-2006, 06:27 AM

It's simple, some people don't have IDs. Thus, it restricts people from voting. In my district we show ID to vote, but I don't think it's "required".

It's not that difficult, requiring a ID will prevent some people from being able to easily vote... And I thought we were suppose to "help america vote" rather than make it more difficult for some?

lodraw · 09-21-2006, 06:47 AM

I vote to shut done this POS political forum once and for all. I personally could not care less about restrictions placed on adult persons who cannot or WILL NOT identify themselves. Would I be remiss to think that a good portion of these people do not want there identities known? Am I being insensitive?

Jim

jeff221 · 09-21-2006, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lodraw

I vote to shut done this POS political forum once and for all. I personally could not care less about restrictions placed on adult persons who cannot or WILL NOT identify themselves. Would I be remiss to think that a good portion of these people do not want there identities known? Am I being insensitive?

Jim

I suggested this once and it got no traction. This forum has turned into a place to spread hatred for different people? Are you colored different? Are you from a different country? Are you makeing less money then me? Do you believe in a different God then me? Than you should DIE DIE DIE!

Pretty sick eh?

bd · 09-21-2006, 07:35 AM

Actually a photo ID might bring on more corruption. A poll worker would be more or less obligated to let someone with a photo ID vote. Are poll workers going to be educated as to how to spot fake IDs?

With all the controversy about the last couple of elections I can see a corrupt party wanting to remain in control producing many, many fake IDs.

It's not necessarily who is voting that concerns me. It's how the votes that have been cast are handled and their security that I see is a problem.

There are way too many security issues with these new Diebold voting machines. I recently read that the same keys that are used to access hotel room mini-bars can be used to open these Diebold voting machines.

Note to lowdraw: If you can't stand the heat.....nobody is forcing you to visit the political section.

Save yourself some stress.

bd

boater1217 · 09-21-2006, 07:57 AM

Well making fake IDs for the correct name does present a problem on voting day. The fraud I have encountered is the individual who knows that XX is not going to vote and goes and presents themselves as that individual and votes for them. They then go to the next polling station and vote for someone else that they know is not voting that day. Kind of like the old "voting the dead" trick. Registering to vote when you are not eligible for whatever reason is an entirely different problem. I think voting is a right, an obligation and a privilege just like the right to bear arms. Just MHO.

jeff221 · 09-21-2006, 08:49 AM

I don't fear people who shouldn't be voting being allowed to vote...

I fear the voting machines themselves.. Even if you legitimize the ENTIRE voter pool, with the machines we use we have no way of makeing certain the end result is legit anyway, so who cares who votes.....

rimfire · 09-21-2006, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lodraw

I vote to shut done this POS political forum once and for all. I personally could not care less about restrictions placed on adult persons who cannot or WILL NOT identify themselves. Would I be remiss to think that a good portion of these people do not want there identities known? Am I being insensitive?

Jim

Your papers please!

Krackels · 09-21-2006, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jeff221

I don't fear people who shouldn't be voting being allowed to vote...

I fear the voting machines themselves.. Even if you legitimize the ENTIRE voter pool, with the machines we use we have no way of makeing certain the end result is legit anyway, so who cares who votes.....

Um... I care. After all, if I really wanted to what would stop me from voting for the other 50+% of voters that don't come out to vote... duh? Required Identification.

IMO the machines are much more honest than some people that vote.

lodraw, who's twisting your arm to read and post to these threads?

jeff221 · 09-21-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Krackels

IMO the machines are much more honest than some people that vote.

Bahaahahahahahahahahaha <deep breath> BAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHA!

Honest...
BAHAHA!

09-21-2006, 06:19 AM	#1
boater1217 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 174	Voter ID I don't understand the problem with showing an ID to vote . I would think this is a fairly straight forward idea. I have to show an ID to get on an airplane, I have to have an ID to drive, I have to have an ID to cash a check, I could go on and on. Anyway seems some people are very opposed to the idea. http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...3316-5086r.htm __________________ Springfield XD Service 9MM Sig Mosquito w/Red Dot Taurus 22 Auto Pocket Pistol S&W Chief\'s Special Remington 870 Enfield Mark III SA Black Stainless PX9152L Browning BPS 12 ga Upland Special

09-21-2006, 06:27 AM	#2
jeff221 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 2,364	It's simple, some people don't have IDs. Thus, it restricts people from voting. In my district we show ID to vote, but I don't think it's "required". It's not that difficult, requiring a ID will prevent some people from being able to easily vote... And I thought we were suppose to "help america vote" rather than make it more difficult for some? __________________ Springfield XD40 Sub-Compact Bi-Tone (.40S&W) Springfield XD9 Tactical Black (9mm) Springfield G.I. Milspec Stainless 1911-A1 (.45 ACP) Kimber Raptor II 1911 (.45 ACP) Kel-Tec P-3AT (.380 ACP) Charter Arms "Off Duty" Revolver (.38 Spl) Ruger 22/45 Mark III (.22 LR) Smith&Wesson M&P15A 16in AR-15 (.223/5.56 NATO) BushMaster Carbon-15 (.22 LR) BushMaster XM15 E2S 20in AR-15 (.223/5.56 NATO) Stoeger P350 Tactical Pump Shotgun (12 Gauge) Winchester Black Model98 Canon (10 Gauge)

09-21-2006, 06:47 AM	#3
lodraw XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mesa, Arizona. Shooting Capital of the Known Universe Posts: 230	I vote to shut done this POS political forum once and for all. I personally could not care less about restrictions placed on adult persons who cannot or WILL NOT identify themselves. Would I be remiss to think that a good portion of these people do not want there identities known? Am I being insensitive? Jim __________________ Bulgarian Mak 9x18 XD Service 9x19 XD Tactical 40S&W w/Canyon Creek melted Bomars and his trigger. Swingline Staple Gun 5/16'' Beretta 390 12ga http://www.brianenos.com/forums/ http://uspsa.org/entrypage.shtml

09-21-2006, 07:57 AM	#6
boater1217 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Oxford, MS Posts: 174	Well making fake IDs for the correct name does present a problem on voting day. The fraud I have encountered is the individual who knows that XX is not going to vote and goes and presents themselves as that individual and votes for them. They then go to the next polling station and vote for someone else that they know is not voting that day. Kind of like the old "voting the dead" trick. Registering to vote when you are not eligible for whatever reason is an entirely different problem. I think voting is a right, an obligation and a privilege just like the right to bear arms. Just MHO. __________________ Springfield XD Service 9MM Sig Mosquito w/Red Dot Taurus 22 Auto Pocket Pistol S&W Chief\'s Special Remington 870 Enfield Mark III SA Black Stainless PX9152L Browning BPS 12 ga Upland Special

09-21-2006, 08:49 AM	#7
jeff221 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 2,364	I don't fear people who shouldn't be voting being allowed to vote... I fear the voting machines themselves.. Even if you legitimize the ENTIRE voter pool, with the machines we use we have no way of makeing certain the end result is legit anyway, so who cares who votes..... __________________ Springfield XD40 Sub-Compact Bi-Tone (.40S&W) Springfield XD9 Tactical Black (9mm) Springfield G.I. Milspec Stainless 1911-A1 (.45 ACP) Kimber Raptor II 1911 (.45 ACP) Kel-Tec P-3AT (.380 ACP) Charter Arms "Off Duty" Revolver (.38 Spl) Ruger 22/45 Mark III (.22 LR) Smith&Wesson M&P15A 16in AR-15 (.223/5.56 NATO) BushMaster Carbon-15 (.22 LR) BushMaster XM15 E2S 20in AR-15 (.223/5.56 NATO) Stoeger P350 Tactical Pump Shotgun (12 Gauge) Winchester Black Model98 Canon (10 Gauge)

09-21-2006, 07:35 AM	#5
bd XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,864	Actually a photo ID might bring on more corruption. A poll worker would be more or less obligated to let someone with a photo ID vote. Are poll workers going to be educated as to how to spot fake IDs? With all the controversy about the last couple of elections I can see a corrupt party wanting to remain in control producing many, many fake IDs. It's not necessarily who is voting that concerns me. It's how the votes that have been cast are handled and their security that I see is a problem. There are way too many security issues with these new Diebold voting machines. I recently read that the same keys that are used to access hotel room mini-bars can be used to open these Diebold voting machines. Note to lowdraw: If you can't stand the heat.....nobody is forcing you to visit the political section. Save yourself some stress. bd

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