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Old 09-17-2006, 12:45 PM   #21
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A: Since this is a gun forum, I would be very interested in finding out exactly who you would be referring to as a "gun-grabbing Democrat supporting (ANYONE)" who is trying to "flood" a "legitimate Forum like ours" with what you seem to consider ""obfuscation". Can you give a single specific example? Who here would you consider a "gun grabber"? I'm not asking for a list, just one single name.

B: The word "flooding" in the context of politics brought into this "legitimate Forum"....Well I have to inquire. Curiosity has me firmly in it's grasp!
Do you consider yourself to be someone who has "flooded" this Internet site with political topics? Or do you consider yourself someone who is primarily a gun enthusiast who occasionally gets away from the XD and non-XD/HS2000 threads and makes an occasional comment in the political section? Something you just occasionally do between your informative posts about the attributes, drawbacks and generally stimulating discussions you either initiate or contribute to in regard to the specifics of the HS/XD, other guns, triggers, sights, accessories, modifications, all that interesting stuff you enthrall us with that makes your posts so compelling to gun enthusiasts.

C: Can you give an example of anyone saying they "Hate Bush"? After all, you have used the term "Bush-haters" even more than you have used the term "gun grabbers". (which is quite a lot by anyone's standards).

D: I know I have asked this before but never gotten any kind of response from you;
Among our most outspoken anti-gun (gun grabbers?) politicians, we have the current Mayor of NYC (Michael Bloomberg), the previous Mayor of NYC who may well have aspirations for running for national office (Rudy Giuliani), and the current Republican Governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who also is somewhat of a nationally rather than locally perceived politician. And of course the Brady's, Jim and Sarah .......two Republicans whose names are synonymous with gun control.
I don't keep as close an eye on these issues as you seem to, but I was hoping you could address this apparent anomaly....how is it these Republicans are somehow not considered by YOU to be "gun grabbers" when anyone, no matter what their personal feelings or voting records, or the wishes of their constituents, are, by your logic, "gun grabbers" simply if their names are in the "D" column in the voting booth?

E: This may be somewhat redundant to "A", but I have to ask...
You say "XDForum members ....(edit)....want gun-grabbing Democrats in power". So again, I can't resist asking....How about ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE? One simple effort on your behalf to explain how you came to this conclusion? What logic did you use to come to this (typical of you) allegation and accusation of the thinking of others? How do you read minds? Or did I miss it when ANYONE here said they wanted to see "gun grabbers" in office so they could grab more guns?

Lastly, and somewhat off topic....you use the word "hate" quite frequently. I virtually always sign my posts off with "Peace". I believe you recently said you "hate" the use of the word "Peace" (I'd do a search to find your exact words, but it's too time consuming). Anyway, do you wish for us (the members of XDTalk) to assume you are against the concept of peace?

(Rhetorical question....If you have an answer, fine. But I'd far prefer (as I am sure almost everyone would) hearing your responses to the questions about "gun grabbing Democrats" and how they have infiltrated our forum and others like it that are homes to gun enthusiasts.

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Wow, Im taking Tom off my ignorant list to see his response to this. If he has the balls to respond that is....

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Old 09-17-2006, 12:51 PM   #22
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Wow, Im taking Tom off my ignorant list to see his response to this. If he has the balls to respond that is....

*grabs popcorn and beer*
I usually resist the urge to respond to Delija, he has been stalking my posts for months now. His hateful and lying personal attacks are humorous, but not worth my time to consider.

If you enjoy them, then sit back and enjoy, we both are not going anywhere and I love to point out liberal hypocrisy.




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Old 09-17-2006, 01:05 PM   #23
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I usually resist the urge to respond to Delija, he has been stalking my posts for months now. His hateful and lying personal attacks are humorous, but not worth my time to consider.

If you enjoy them, then sit back and enjoy, we both are not going anywhere and I love to point out liberal hypocrisy.




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If you consider that a personal attack, then youve lived a very sheltered life. That post was not hateful, nor was it lying. Go ahead, dodge the truth. I dont think you have the fortitude to respond to his questions, probably because you dont have answers. This would be a good time to, as they say, "put up or shut up".


Time to come to Jesus Tom...
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Old 09-17-2006, 01:11 PM   #24
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Yep, it looks like Tom is trying to make some side money by luring people into endless posts about his BS, then causing them to have to replace their recoil springs in their keyboards. Watch out you may even have to contact Don to machine some stainless or tungsten letter guide rods.
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I usually resist the urge to respond to Delija, he has been stalking my posts for months now. His hateful and lying personal attacks are humorous, but not worth my time to consider.

If you enjoy them, then sit back and enjoy, we both are not going anywhere and I love to point out liberal hypocrisy.




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Same old cop-out. No response.

You keep saying that I make "personal attacks". Then you call me a liar and "hateful".

All I did was ask you to respond to a few questions...questions based on your written previous post and many that preceeded it,

You make accusations and allegations but when questioned, you NEVER explain how you come to the conclusions you write. NOT EVER.

Now you tell us that you "love to point out liberal hypocrisy". Where did you do that? Is ignoring a question somehow the same thing in your vey strange fantasy world?

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Wow, Im taking Tom off my ignorant list to see his response to this. If he has the balls to respond that is....

*grabs popcorn and beer*
Well, like you, I am glad I did not hold my breath. In fact, not anyone here could have really expected a straightforward response.

I am disappointed, but certainly not surprised. I would guess that holds true for every member of XDTalk that has followed Tom's reasoning for the past several thousand posts. The "conservatives", the "liberals", the "Bush haters" and now the newly introduced "gun grabbing" segment of our little community.

Obviously Tom is not going to address the issues (he is nothing if not consistent).


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I usually resist the urge to respond to Delija, he has been stalking my posts for months now. His hateful and lying personal attacks are humorous, but not worth my time to consider.

If you enjoy them, then sit back and enjoy, we both are not going anywhere and I love to point out liberal hypocrisy.




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Geez can't I get any credit here? I've been stalking tommyboy as long as D has.
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Yep, it looks like Tom is trying to make some side money by luring people into endless posts about his BS, then causing them to have to replace their recoil springs in their keyboards. Watch out you may even have to contact Don to machine some stainless or tungsten letter guide rods.
Nah, I don't want to be tricked into a pointless debate with Delija's BS.

If one respects President Bush then you must expect to be attacked personally by the Bush-haters. I accept that condition and I have tons of fun watching the Bush-haters go wild with their hypocrisy and total BS...



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Nah, I don't want to be tricked into a pointless debate with Delija's BS.


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i.e. I dont have the fortitude, reasoning, or appropriate response to step up to the plate. Like Delija said, cop out.
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Nah, I don't want to be tricked into a pointless debate with Delija's BS.

If one respects President Bush then you must expect to be attacked personally by the Bush-haters. I accept that condition and I have tons of fun watching the Bush-haters go wild with their hypocrisy and total BS...



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Did I ask for a "debate"? Or an argument? NO! I just asked a few questions...questions intended to let us understand the reasoning behind your claims.

Instead of responding, you do what you always do...resort to calling me (or anyone who questions your statements) a "Bush hater" (What Bush has to do with your off the wall the "gun grabber" nonsense, I have no idea....you just can't seem to stay on a topic even when it is YOU who brought it up in the first place).

You cry that I "stalk" you and that I am a "liar" and that I am "hateful". And a "hypocrite". You do this while claiming that I attack you personally.

Read what I wrote. Read what you wrote. See if you can figure out who attacked whom on a personal level.

When you make outragious claims, you really should be prepared to back them up. After all, you went so far as to tell us that WE...members of this gun enthusiasts web site want to see our guns legislated away from us.

I think you owe us a real explanation of your "reasoning".

Here's what you said....You can try to hide your own allegations behind another barrage of your standard "Bush hater" ranting, but try and stay on the topic for JUST ONCE:

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Did you notice that our Bush-hating XDForum members rarely or NEVER post their disgust for Democrat criminals? It’s because they want gun-grabbing Democrats in power.
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Did I ask for a "debate"? Or an argument? NO! I just asked a few questions...questions intended to let us understand the reasoning behind your claims.

Instead of responding, you do what you always do...resort to calling me (or anyone who questions your statements) a "Bush hater" (What Bush has to do with your off the wall the "gun grabber" nonsense, I have no idea....you just can't seem to stay on a topic even when it is YOU who brought it up in the first place).

You cry that I "stalk" you and that I am a "liar" and that I am "hateful". And a "hypocrite". You do this while claiming that I attack you personally.

Read what I wrote. Read what you wrote. See if you can figure out who attacked whom on a personal level.

When you make outragious claims, you really should be prepared to back them up. After all, you went so far as to tell us that WE...members of this gun enthusiasts web site want to see our guns legislated away from us.

I think you owe us a real explanation of your "reasoning".

Here's what you said....You can try to hide your own allegations behind another barrage of your standard "Bush hater" ranting, but try and stay on the topic for JUST ONCE:



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Dont expect a reply to this one either. He doesnt have the fortitude to man up to his statements, probably because he doesnt have the proof.
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