Ney Expected to Plead Guilty Today

[bd]

Originally Posted by amishclark

that's like the pot calling the kettle black, don't you think?

Don't confuse him. They don't want him hanging around the kitchen.

bd

[bd]

A little stroll down memory lane......

July 28, 2006: When federal prosecutors subpoena one of his aides, Ney suggests they're trying to throw his upcoming election. "[D]on’t you find it unusual that after 17 months that the Justice Department all of the sudden, 120 days before the election, subpoenas a staffer. They could have called him within the last 17 months. I’ll leave it right at that. I find it very unusual.” (Ney has since dropped out of the race.)

June 9, 2006: Ney angrily emails a reporter for his story about a junket Ney improperly reported. "Let me tell you paul-last week you did not call us for comment ‘you were under deadline.' . . . Print the same story-change it to reprint the same story-people in new philly – d’s and r’s call it ‘elk’s politics.’ . . . Please-please-print this paul-you don’t care about ohio-i am sick of your crap. You are a d c person who couldn’t find ohio unless we gave you a map. You don’t give two shoots about our people."

April 20, 2006: Ney spokesman Brian Walsh told us, "Frankly, it's an unfortunate commentary on the justice system that someone has to spend a lot of money simply to clear their name. . . . in what is in this case completely false allegations." (Walsh has retained his own counsel in the matter; he resigned from Ney's office in June.)

May 8, 2006: Again, Walsh: "[T]he congressman is more confident than ever that he will be vindicated in this matter. . . . the congressman will not under any circumstances plead guilty to a crime he did not commit" -- in retrospect, a rather clever denial -- "Congressman Ney has said from day one that he has done absolutely nothing illegal, improper or unethical."

Jan. 15, 2006: Facing a growing scandal and pressure from GOP leadership, Ney resigns his chairmanship of the House Administration Committee. "I want to assure my colleagues and my constituents that I have done absolutely nothing wrong and I am convinced that I will be vindicated completely at the end of this difficult process," he says defiantly.

"[O]nce these false allegations have been put to rest, and I have the full confidence that they will be, I look forward to resuming the chair for the rest of my appointed term and continuing the important work of the committee," Ney declared that day.


Bob -- Thanks for the memories

(Isn't it about time for the Noe trial for criminal conspiracy and money laundering to start in Ohio?)

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[beardman2]

BD: how many people who do things illegaly immediatly go "I did it!"? Doesn't surprise me he fought it to the end.

[bd]

Originally Posted by beardman2

BD: how many people who do things illegaly immediatly go "I did it!"? Doesn't surprise me he fought it to the end.

Going from this.....

"I want to assure my colleagues and my constituents that I have done absolutely nothing wrong and I am convinced that I will be vindicated completely at the end of this difficult process," he says defiantly.

......to pleading guilty in a manner of months doesn't tip you off to the character of this man?

Now if he'd let it go to trial and fought it even knowing he was guilty I'd give him credit for having some balls.

But now he's pleading for mercy and will turn states' evidence to save his sorry ass.

I think I would have just said nothing. At least that would have been a few less lies that could be hung on me.

bd

[beardman2]

Oh a man of no honor to be sure. I wasn't defending him. I was simply saying you can't make a case that it was a republican only thing.

[robinsre]

I don't understand why this has to turn into a Republican vs Democrat debate laden with personal attacks...

A man who broke the law is going to jail...in my opinion this translates to a victory for both sides of the political spectrum for all Americans

[NewXD40fun]

Originally Posted by robinsre

I don't understand why this has to turn into a Republican vs Democrat debate laden with personal attacks...

A man who broke the law is going to jail...in my opinion this translates to a victory for both sides of the political spectrum for all Americans

The plan of the gun-grabbing Democrat supporting bloggers is to flood legitimate Forums like ours with the nonsensical and illogical conclusion that one bad Republican means all Republicans are bad.


Did you notice that our Bush-hating XDForum members rarely or NEVER post their disgust for Democrat criminals? It’s because they want gun-grabbing Democrats in power. Since they have feew to no legitimate arguments to show that some Democrats would be good legislators but not grab our guns then they have to use obfuscation.





Tom

[bd]

Why hasn't Ney resigned his seat?

Why haven't any of the honest, God-fearing Republicans called for his resignation?


bd

[cucamelsmd15]

Originally Posted by bd

honest, God-fearing Republicans

bd

Well, those three words dont belong in a sentence together...

[Delija]

Originally Posted by NewXD40fun

The plan of the gun-grabbing Democrat supporting bloggers is to flood legitimate Forums like ours with the nonsensical and illogical conclusion that one bad Republican means all Republicans are bad.


Did you notice that our Bush-hating XDForum members rarely or NEVER post their disgust for Democrat criminals? It’s because they want gun-grabbing Democrats in power. Since they have feew to no legitimate arguments to show that some Democrats would be good legislators but not grab our guns then they have to use obfuscation.

Tom

A: Since this is a gun forum, I would be very interested in finding out exactly who you would be referring to as a "gun-grabbing Democrat supporting (ANYONE)" who is trying to "flood" a "legitimate Forum like ours" with what you seem to consider ""obfuscation". Can you give a single specific example? Who here would you consider a "gun grabber"? I'm not asking for a list, just one single name.

B: The word "flooding" in the context of politics brought into this "legitimate Forum"....Well I have to inquire. Curiosity has me firmly in it's grasp!
Do you consider yourself to be someone who has "flooded" this Internet site with political topics? Or do you consider yourself someone who is primarily a gun enthusiast who occasionally gets away from the XD and non-XD/HS2000 threads and makes an occasional comment in the political section? Something you just occasionally do between your informative posts about the attributes, drawbacks and generally stimulating discussions you either initiate or contribute to in regard to the specifics of the HS/XD, other guns, triggers, sights, accessories, modifications, all that interesting stuff you enthrall us with that makes your posts so compelling to gun enthusiasts.

C: Can you give an example of anyone saying they "Hate Bush"? After all, you have used the term "Bush-haters" even more than you have used the term "gun grabbers". (which is quite a lot by anyone's standards).

D: I know I have asked this before but never gotten any kind of response from you;
Among our most outspoken anti-gun (gun grabbers?) politicians, we have the current Republican Mayor of NYC (Michael Bloomberg), the previous Republican Mayor of NYC who may well have aspirations for running for national office (Rudy Giuliani), and the current Republican Governor of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who also is somewhat of a nationally rather than locally perceived politician. And of course the Brady's, Jim and Sarah .......two Republicans whose names are synonymous with gun control.
I don't keep as close an eye on these issues as you seem to, but I was hoping you could address this apparent anomaly....how is it these Republicans are somehow not considered by YOU to be "gun grabbers" when anyone, no matter what their personal feelings or voting records, or the wishes of their constituents, are, by your logic, "gun grabbers" simply if their names are in the "D" column in the voting booth?

E: This may be somewhat redundant to "A", but I have to ask...
You say "XDForum members ....(edit)....want gun-grabbing Democrats in power". So again, I can't resist asking....How about ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE? One simple effort on your behalf to explain how you came to this conclusion? What logic did you use to come to this (typical of you) allegation and accusation of the thinking of others? How do you read minds? Or did I miss it when ANYONE here said they wanted to see "gun grabbers" in office so they could grab more guns?

Lastly, and somewhat off topic....you use the word "hate" quite frequently. I virtually always sign my posts off with "Peace". I believe you recently said you "hate" the use of the word "Peace" (I'd do a search to find your exact words, but it's too time consuming). Anyway, do you wish for us (the members of XDTalk) to assume you are against the concept of peace?

(Rhetorical question....If you have an answer, fine. But I'd far prefer (as I am sure almost everyone would) hearing your responses to the questions about "gun grabbing Democrats" and how they have infiltrated our forum and others like it that are homes to gun enthusiasts.

PEACE,
D.