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NewXD40fun · 06-22-2006, 06:45 AM

Poison Gas Shells Prompt Calls For WMD Search

By ELI LAKE - Staff Reporter of the Sun
June 22, 2006

WASHINGTON - Since the formal search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was called off in January 2005, the American military has found more than 500 shells of ordinance containing Sarin or mustard gas.

While the shells are believed to date from the Iran-Iraq war, two Republican lawmakers are saying it raises enough questions for the president to order a new search for the biological, chemical and nuclear weapons program he said Saddam Hussein was concealing from the international community before the invasion of Iraq.

"The information released today proves that weapons of mass destruction are, in fact, in Iraq," Senator Santorum, a Republican from Pennsylvania said yesterday. "It is essential for the American people to understand that these weapons are in Iraq. I will continue to advocate for the complete declassification of this report so we can more fully understand the complete WMD picture inside Iraq."

Pentagon officials, however, yesterday said the weapons disclosed in the partially declassified Army's National Ground Intelligence Center report were "not the weapons we were looking for." Indeed, unexploded chemical ordinance dating from before 1991 are different from the stockpiles of anthrax and other toxins the then Secretary of State, Colin Powell told the U.N. Security Council in January 2003 was awaiting inspectors in Iraq.

That said, under the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the shooting part of the Gulf War, Iraq was obliged to account for and destroy the stocks of chemicals and germs he had acknowledged to have amassed prior to the invasion of Kuwait which sparked the Gulf War.

The latest information about the chemical weapons shells, however, is most damaging to those who suggest the work of former weapons inspectors David Kay and Charles Duelfer have provided the definitive word on the whereabouts of the suspected WMD, according to the chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

"Duelfer after 18 months was not able to find this stuff," Mr. Hoekstra said. "We made this determination that hundreds [of weapons] were found. I think this is a significant quantity. What does this say about all of the other issues that continue to be raised [such as] stuff transported to Syria. I don't believe everything that is out there is credible, but it shows how much we still don't know."

Indeed, Mr. Duelfer's final report said numerous sites were ransacked before inspectors got there and there were reams of documents that his team did not analyze. Mr. Hoekstra said he did not consider yesterday's declassified findings to be a "silver bullet," nor was he prepared to get into details about what was in the new report.

Other former intelligence officials have said that some old ordinance from the Iran-Iraq war was left on the battlefield.

http://www.nysun.com/article/34929

It sure is quiet around here about this, the LIARS (Bush-haters) must be searching their souls and going to church to beg their gods for forgiveness...HA, who am I trying to kid, the Liberals and other pseudo-Conservative Bush-Haters will find a way to rationalize their despicable and hateful lies.

Tom

Mark S. · 06-22-2006, 07:11 AM

.... Pentagon officials, however, yesterday said the weapons disclosed in the partially declassified Army's National Ground Intelligence Center report were "not the weapons we were looking for." Indeed, unexploded chemical ordinance dating from before 1991 are different from the stockpiles of anthrax and other toxins the then Secretary of State, Colin Powell told the U.N. Security Council in January 2003 was awaiting inspectors in Iraq. ...

Duh! As the Defense Department's own report pointed out these were pre-1991 weapons that could not be fired because they already were degraded!

Santorum, whose senate campaign is tanking, is grandstanding.

**beardman2** · 06-22-2006, 07:39 AM

what I found interesting is how the evil lying bush administration didn't say this as the greatest stash of WMD ever discovered. In fact they even downplayed it saying its not what they were looking for!!

You're catching the sarcasm right?

NewXD40fun · 06-22-2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark S.

.... Pentagon officials, however, yesterday said the weapons disclosed in the partially declassified Army's National Ground Intelligence Center report were "not the weapons we were looking for." Indeed, unexploded chemical ordinance dating from before 1991 are different from the stockpiles of anthrax and other toxins the then Secretary of State, Colin Powell told the U.N. Security Council in January 2003 was awaiting inspectors in Iraq. ...

Duh! As the Defense Department's own report pointed out these were pre-1991 weapons that could not be fired because they already were degraded!

Santorum, whose senate campaign is tanking, is grandstanding.

Thanks Mark, I knew you would come trough. Maybe we could store these "downgraded" chemical weapons of mass destruction at your house?

Maybe Bush lied about what type of WMDs were IN IRAQ?

Tom

Mark S. · 06-22-2006, 08:36 AM

If these were a real threat, why hasn't Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld been all over the tube trumpeting that they were right about WMD's?

NewXD40fun · 06-22-2006, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark S.

If these were a real threat, why hasn't Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld been all over the tube trumpeting that they were right about WMD's?

When real men with Conservative Moral Values know they are doing the right thing there is no need to pander to scumbag Liberals and pathetic loser Bush-haters (sorry if the shoe fits).

The Vice-President and Secretary of Defense do not need opinion polls to justify their decisions, I thought you would have realized this by now.

The troops volunteering to fight terrorism know the score, nothing else matters.

Tom

Kimura · 06-22-2006, 09:01 AM

What I really want to know, and what the real question is, is that if the Bush administration is so evil as to be invlved with the 9/11 attacks as the left's beloved Michael Moore seems to present in his mockumentary, then why wasn't the Bush administration wicked enough to simply fabricate the discovery of a whole stash of WMD's? It certainly is not impossible, the CIA and KGB alike developed masterful techniques for fabricating international incidents during the cold war. So why? Why go into a war that you know will be unpopular with those who were only lukewarm supporters of your political party in the majority of the electorate and not find what you are looking for?

SkyRat · 06-22-2006, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark S.

If these were a real threat, why hasn't Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld been all over the tube trumpeting that they were right about WMD's?

If they did would you believe them? There is nothing they can say to get you to see the truth.

NewXD40fun · 06-22-2006, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyRat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark S.

If these were a real threat, why hasn't Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld been all over the tube trumpeting that they were right about WMD's?

If they did would you believe them? There is nothing they can say to get you to see the truth.

Another truth has surfaced: the Democrats LIED.

Tom

Son of Norway · 06-22-2006, 11:10 AM

Chemical and biological weapons are not terribly practical due to their rather short shelf life and inherent dangers associated with the storage of these weapons. If the intelligence gathered by the US had only found Sarin in Saddam's stockpile there would have been no call to war. As I recall, the fear that was being sold to us had to do with nuclear capabilities. You know, large amounts of "yellow cake uranium" being sold to Saddam from Africa. Of course that has long since been declared bogus..

06-22-2006, 06:45 AM	#1
NewXD40fun XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Olmsted, Ohio Posts: 2,729	Liberals/Democrats LIED - WMDs Found Poison Gas Shells Prompt Calls For WMD Search By ELI LAKE - Staff Reporter of the Sun June 22, 2006 WASHINGTON - Since the formal search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was called off in January 2005, the American military has found more than 500 shells of ordinance containing Sarin or mustard gas. While the shells are believed to date from the Iran-Iraq war, two Republican lawmakers are saying it raises enough questions for the president to order a new search for the biological, chemical and nuclear weapons program he said Saddam Hussein was concealing from the international community before the invasion of Iraq. "The information released today proves that weapons of mass destruction are, in fact, in Iraq," Senator Santorum, a Republican from Pennsylvania said yesterday. "It is essential for the American people to understand that these weapons are in Iraq. I will continue to advocate for the complete declassification of this report so we can more fully understand the complete WMD picture inside Iraq." Pentagon officials, however, yesterday said the weapons disclosed in the partially declassified Army's National Ground Intelligence Center report were "not the weapons we were looking for." Indeed, unexploded chemical ordinance dating from before 1991 are different from the stockpiles of anthrax and other toxins the then Secretary of State, Colin Powell told the U.N. Security Council in January 2003 was awaiting inspectors in Iraq. That said, under the terms of the 1991 cease-fire that ended the shooting part of the Gulf War, Iraq was obliged to account for and destroy the stocks of chemicals and germs he had acknowledged to have amassed prior to the invasion of Kuwait which sparked the Gulf War. The latest information about the chemical weapons shells, however, is most damaging to those who suggest the work of former weapons inspectors David Kay and Charles Duelfer have provided the definitive word on the whereabouts of the suspected WMD, according to the chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. "Duelfer after 18 months was not able to find this stuff," Mr. Hoekstra said. "We made this determination that hundreds [of weapons] were found. I think this is a significant quantity. What does this say about all of the other issues that continue to be raised [such as] stuff transported to Syria. I don't believe everything that is out there is credible, but it shows how much we still don't know." Indeed, Mr. Duelfer's final report said numerous sites were ransacked before inspectors got there and there were reams of documents that his team did not analyze. Mr. Hoekstra said he did not consider yesterday's declassified findings to be a "silver bullet," nor was he prepared to get into details about what was in the new report. Other former intelligence officials have said that some old ordinance from the Iran-Iraq war was left on the battlefield. http://www.nysun.com/article/34929 It sure is quiet around here about this, the LIARS (Bush-haters) must be searching their souls and going to church to beg their gods for forgiveness...HA, who am I trying to kid, the Liberals and other pseudo-Conservative Bush-Haters will find a way to rationalize their despicable and hateful lies. Tom __________________ Springfield XD-40 Service w/DGR kit, EFK 9mm Taurus PT-140 Mill Pro _ Specialized Roubaix Expert "YOU'VE GOT TO STAND FOR SOMETHING OR YOU'LL FALL FOR ANYTHING" ---Aaron Tippin

06-22-2006, 07:39 AM	#3
beardman2 XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 4,950	what I found interesting is how the evil lying bush administration didn't say this as the greatest stash of WMD ever discovered. In fact they even downplayed it saying its not what they were looking for!! You're catching the sarcasm right? __________________ - He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine I will not be involved with the dreams of angry men. Founding Documents Freedom isn't free: http://www.anysoldier.com

06-22-2006, 09:01 AM	#7
Kimura XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Birmingham, Alabama Posts: 273	What I really want to know, and what the real question is, is that if the Bush administration is so evil as to be invlved with the 9/11 attacks as the left's beloved Michael Moore seems to present in his mockumentary, then why wasn't the Bush administration wicked enough to simply fabricate the discovery of a whole stash of WMD's? It certainly is not impossible, the CIA and KGB alike developed masterful techniques for fabricating international incidents during the cold war. So why? Why go into a war that you know will be unpopular with those who were only lukewarm supporters of your political party in the majority of the electorate and not find what you are looking for? __________________ "It isn't that Liberals are ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so" --Ronald Reagan

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06-22-2006, 07:11 AM	#2
Mark S. XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 733	.... Pentagon officials, however, yesterday said the weapons disclosed in the partially declassified Army's National Ground Intelligence Center report were "not the weapons we were looking for." Indeed, unexploded chemical ordinance dating from before 1991 are different from the stockpiles of anthrax and other toxins the then Secretary of State, Colin Powell told the U.N. Security Council in January 2003 was awaiting inspectors in Iraq. ... Duh! As the Defense Department's own report pointed out these were pre-1991 weapons that could not be fired because they already were degraded! Santorum, whose senate campaign is tanking, is grandstanding.

06-22-2006, 08:36 AM	#5
Mark S. XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 733	If these were a real threat, why hasn't Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld been all over the tube trumpeting that they were right about WMD's?